My Revis conflict

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  1. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    It's also not normal that you have a middling to bad QB tied to your team due to salary cap reasons and it's a weak QB draft. It wasn't a normal situation Idzik took over. Most likely, unless we catch magic, this is a throwaway year
     
  2. Ben Had

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    I get the argument for why the Jets would not want to let another team talk to Revis without first getting the parameters of their offer down with the Jets. It's too risky, and invites inquiries that would be in bad faith, and also allows for the other team to cut a deal with Revis that is not favorable to the Jets.

    But... I also do not see how another team could reach a deal that would involve more than a second round pick to the Jets, if that, unless the other team has talked to Revis.

    So maybe it breaks down on this aspect. Interesting. Jets don't want other teams to talk to Revis. Other teams will not offer much to Jets unless they can talk to Revis. Sounds like that Scylla and Charybdis thing.
     
  4. JET'S_my_name

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    I keep reading that Revis wants to stay a Jet and that they won't negotiate with him, but it could just be posturing.
     
  5. RochesterJet

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    If he truly does then why do they need to talk to him about his contract? Isnt he under the Jets control this year? Dosent he have question marks about his health?
    Prove you are healthy and still the calibor you say you are and you will get paid accordingly. Cart waaay ahead of the horse here Mesvi$, but what do you expect based on his past tactics. Thats why I am sooo fed up with his act
     
  6. RochesterJet

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    B-I-N-G-O

    Why would the Jets let anybody discuss a contract with a player they ae not shopping? A player under contract? If any team would like to negotiate with said player, then they must have a frame-work of a deal in place with compensation to the TEAM first. Then the Jets should negotiate the terms of the deal for the team so they control the cards and information flow. They NY media makes this a must! HAcks
     
  7. Big Blocker

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    If you mean get paid by the Jets, do you have a source that says the Jets are going to pay him?
     
  8. Big Blocker

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    You are essentially correct as far as it goes, but the flip side is also correct. Why trade the Jets anything of value for a one year player rental, and even at that for one you don't know his condition? Alternatively you could hope to get Revis under a new contract, but how can you offer that if you don't know what Revis will want and what his condition is?

    This is shaping up as a dilmemna I don't see the answer to.
     
  9. wildaces

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    I would behoove the Jets to allow other teams discuss contracts. Revis, Inc will realize what the current market is, and if a trade can't be made, the brunt of the negotiation is over.
     
  10. RochesterJet

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    Is there one that says they wont? Pure speculation either way.
     
  11. RochesterJet

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    But this limits the Jets ability to control the compensation. In a perfect world the JEts would re-sign DR and then trade him.
     
  12. wildaces

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    Not at all. The Jets still have the controlling factor of what to trade him for. The other team can only agree in principal until the trade is actually done.
     
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  14. Br4d

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    I don't think the Jets are blocking conversation in a vacuum. They're blocking conversation in the absence of a serious offer. There's a difference.

    This is a moot point because if a team is not willing to make an offer then there's no point in letting them talk to Revis and his people.

    A team that made an offer and then used the opportunity to tamper instead would be taking a huge risk. Things don't stay quiet and under wraps in NY as we all well know. The NFL doesn't hold a trial on tampering charges. Due process does not involve a vigorous defense on tampering charges. It involves the Commissioner making a decision that he feels best upholds the interests of the NFL and also resolves the situation in a manner fair to both parties.

    In other words, tamper with a player like Darrelle Revis and you probably lose 1st round picks, maybe more than one.
     
  15. Br4d

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    Excuse me, the greatest WR since Jerry Rice is taking up residence in Miami so the Jets need to have Deion Sanders to cover him.

    Any good CB can shut down a good receiver on his best day. Darrelle Revis can't shut down Stevie Johnson on any day. Revis of course is a great CB but that doesn't mean the only answer to a good WR entering the division is to pay a great CB through the nose to keep him.

    Think about it.

    And BTW, the Jets aren't beating the Fins much lately with Brian Hartline drawing Revis attention. It's not clear to me that Wallace is going to make things any worse.
     
  16. wildaces

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    For all intensive purposes, Revis is not going to be here in 2014. I have to believe this is the premise that the FO is working with. Letting his agents talk to other teams could lower his expectations considerably. He will not get 13+ million from any team, IMO.
     
  17. Br4d

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    I think Revis could get 13 million pretty easily from any number of teams including the Jets.

    Letting his agents talk to people in the absence of a firm offer for Revis if the talks are successful is like wading in quicksand. Won't happen, really no point in discussing it further.
     
  18. Biggs

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    What's the problem? Revis may well suck after an ACL and have no value? If not we will find out and cut him at the end of the year. Revis may well be great and if the Jets suck anyway they can trade him during the season. Revis may be so great he proves he is worth Franchise QB money in which case we can pay him.

    Revis is basically a one year rental if we want to trade him right now. I can't see a well run team signing what may be damaged goods to a long term cap busting deal. That eliminates several teams.
     
  19. wildaces

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    Well...

    Teams have already stated, per articles, that they want to know if he is a 1 year rental or not (Kinda determines what they are willing to offer). It's a catch 22 that I feel the Jets get the advantage, and can see if the market is drastically lower than what Revis's feels he is worth.

    Teams are already showing that they are not going to pay overpriced veterans, and are trying to depress the prior CBA free agent markets.

    Discuss it or not, we are in unprecedented times, and nothing is out of the realm of possibility.
     
  20. usc1978

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    Nothing cracks me up more than this phrase!
     

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