Sanchez had one awful year. He's shown he can be a top-half of the league QB. Last year he had a ton of turnovers, but there's more that goes into a turnover than the person throwing the ball (I'll exclude fumbles in this discussion because Sanchez needs to hold on to the ball better). Did the receiver run the right route, at the right depth? Did make a good cut or did he round out his cut? Did the receiver make the right read? Did Sanchez make the right read? Did Sanchez make a poor throw? Did the defender make a great play? There's a lot that goes into an INT and when you are throwing to new or untalented guys there will be problems. It's been discussed many times here, but Sanchez lost Holmes and Keller and had no viable option out of the backfield. It is NOT all on Sanchez.
There is NO WAY IN HELL Andy Dalton is leading the 2012 Jets to 8 or 9 wins. They didn't have any problems coming out in public and saying Tebow is shit. They have confidence in Sanchez. Because our fanbase doesn't have faith in Sanchez is irrelevant. The Giants fanbase once didn't have faith in Eli.
He's already shown that he can get the job done. He can be a top 10 QB in the NFL. I agree w/ junc that he was in 2010 and I know he can be again.
Would they have bene better? of course, they'd be better w/ anyone but would they have been successful? No, would we have made the playoffs? No. I saw it months ago, it is meaningless to me espeically coming from a guy that was a complete failure in tampa Bay then became a HOFre when he had elite talent around him. You can find any "expert" to say anything, they are like fans. Thet love to pile on, now Flacco is "elite" even though we all know that is laughable just like Eli is now "elite". You guys can get your opinions from experts, I will form my own opinions by watching. Considering in Peyton's 11 playoff losses he has led his team to an averaged of less than 15 PPG I would say YEAH 17 should have been enough. Peyton is a legendary postseason choker and we had a double digit lead on him. Oh, the single biggest reason we lost is b/c we went up 17-6 instead of 21-6? 30 is still mroe than 21, right? Do we forget Sanchez lost Shonn Greene on the first drive of the 2nd half and didn't have a run game the rest of the game? In that dome w/ those pass rushers and no threat of a run game- there's a recipe for success! we had a double digit lead w/ a rookie QB on the road in the playoffs facing one of the biggest choking QBs in the history of the game.
Here's a nice quote from the best player on the Jets: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/21139/revis-says-it-doesnt-matter-where-he-plays
Sanchez has shown he can win but he is also a victim of his early success. The fan base expected Mark to make the leap I expected Mark to make the leap also. The Jets on the other hand decided to take away his weapons and almost get him killed with a turn style left tackle. Mark also got a little to big for his britches. To fix this they brought in Tebow drafted a raw rookie receiver brought in an OC with no OC experience and a bunch of Jags. Then every starting receiver proceeded to get hurt in TC and we lost Holmes and basically Keller for the year. With this scenario you actually expected Mark to do well? Again Mark was the victim of his own success after a great opening game and solid performance against Houston and New England the fan base expected him to make the leap instead he had more injuries to his receivers and we were signing guys off of the street. Then the second NE game happened we talk about the butt fumble but to blame Mark for that game is just stupid. From a numbers perspective Mark actually had a good game. The after math of that game killed Marks confidence he did not play well from that game forward. Again again we see Marks teammates defend him and that is from players that are watching the films this is a good sign Mark can recover. It is also worrisome When a Qb loses his confidence he is not a long way to the end but Mark has a couple things going for him the biggest being a QB friendly system his compl % will go up and when Mark gets into a rhythm he makes throws that the likes of Garrard, Quinn, Kolb, Moore etc can only dream about. By far the biggest issue with Mark is his ball security he seems to fumble or almost fumble on every sack. Some of that can be attributed to bad decisions trying to get rid of the ball but some I have no idea. I am told he has huge hands no way he should fumble as much as he does. If Mark does not fix that he is done in this league. Mark has one more life and I for one am rooting for him. Will he succeed I have no idea but he brought this team to the brink of the Superbowl as a Rookie and played well enough to get us there as a second year player. Let's go Mark the situation is still not ideal for weapons but you need to prove your metal get your head out of your ass and prove you are the leader and QB of the NYJ. Last chance make the most of it.
What did you expect him to say? That he has no faith in the Jets QB? I wouldn't put too much stock in anything Revis says at this point given his situation. Also isn't it ironic how whenever you hear players or coaches talk about Sanchez they always overemphasize the fact that he needs the pieces around him to be successful. I mean that's cliche talk for every QB but in the case of Sanchez they seem to really harp on this which is another illustration of their lack of faith in him making his teammates better. He has no long-term future as the QB of the Jets. You'd be better off coming to that realization as it's inevitable. He may play in 2013 but they're going to suck in large part due to his shortcomings and he'll be gone after the season.
he's going to be an ex-Jet soon and regardless of that if the D feels they are being held back by the QB they'd say something but the 2 highest profile defenders have both publcily come out and said sanchez is a good QB.
Yes what a wonderful way to keep cohesion in the locker room instead of turning into an even bigger circus.
someone would have exploded by now if they thought it was all b/c of the QB. These guys understand the circumstances surrounding Mark, they aren't dumb(at least when it comes to football). We as fans see awful offense, awful QB play and think it must be all about the QB but those that truly understand the game can see what is going on. That doesn't absolve Mark in any way but it's not all on him.
Agreed he gets us at least 7 but 8 or 9 is maybe. We definetely win the TN game with Dalton, with that win the team might show up and win the SD game but maybe not. Dalton's first two years has been far better than Marks first 2 years. He is clearly smarter and has better ball security and is more accurate. Still I don't think he was good enough to get us more than 8 wins this past year. Mark got us 5.
and maybe we lose the Miami game or SL game? the record would have been about the same. He's had a better first 2 statistical years, he's never been as good as Sanchez '10. he's been able to beat bad teams and lose to good teams. in postseason he is 0-2 w/ zero TDs and 4 INts. Those 4 INTs in 2 games are 1 more than Sanchez in 6 games. he's led his O to 8 PPG in those 2 playoff games, in the Texans other 2 playoff games after they beat Cincy they allowed 31 PPG. Mark has led our O's to 20 PPG in 6 playoff games, never less than 17 points(which is more in one game than Dalton in his 2 games). Mark Sanchez is better than Andy Dalton.
in rankings not reality, playing well against weak competition then playing awful when it mattered most at HOME in the playoffs.
I don't know but I do know he was much more valuable than he has been given credit for. Even the best defenses need quality QB play to win, it's why w/ all those great Bal D's they didn't finalyl win another one until they had a QB step up.
Statistics are reality, Cassel threw for 27 tds and 7 ints in 2010-11. That much better than Sanchez has ever done.
Dilfer had a truly great D, Sanchez has never had that. Not really, they played a weak sched and we don't know what what point in games he was accumulating those #s. faced one playoff bound team w/ a winning record and led his O to 9 pts in a 19-9 loss. In postseason led O to 7 pts, threw 0 TDs and 3 INTs- the same amount of INTs mark has in 6 playoff games on the ROAD.
