Comparison Quinn and Tebow

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  1. NFL

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    I wasn't trying to be funny. Its the truth, isn't it?
     
  2. jets4lyfah

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    he should have deferred the spotlight and attention and direct them where it should have gone, the starting qb.
     
  3. JET'S_my_name

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    I agree. That goes back to the doing whatever he's told to do thing.
     
  4. JET'S_my_name

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    I agree with you on the point that stats can be meaningless given the variables. Hell, you can make Tebow look better or worse than most QB's depending on how you want to look at things. I personally have never ignored any of Tebow's stats. Most people don't. He's got a ton of work to do and time is running out for him.
     
  5. Concerned_Citizen

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    Exactly. After tebow's rookie year, people took the stat sheets from those first three games, compared them to Elway's first 3 games, and tried to say Tebow was off to a better start and therefore was on his way to a better career than Elway.

    Based on a three game sample... separated by 3 decades... where passing was less frequent, and 56% completion percentages could still keep you in the upper half, rather than today where you'd be in the bottom 25%.

    What would have made Tebow better is if he would have been able to sustain drives, more pass attempts would have occurred, more scoring would have occurred, and we would have seen a lot less of our punter. Yet when all that was pointed out on the stat sheets as part of the reason scores were down, his cheerleader squad comes out and insists that none of that is important. The important stat is the one they come up with that comes in at a strange angle that makes Tebow look good.

    I mean, seriously. If all it took to make a draft pick or free agent signing was to compare stats on plays that have 22 guys on the field, there would be no need to spend money on talent scouts, talent evaluators, and general managers. That kinda works in Tebow's favor too though. Someone can look at all the stuff he brings. cuz if they look at the stat sheets and see him leading the league in three and outs, and dead last in most passing categories, he'd be finished. Might be anyway.
     
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    Oh man...

    I just ready that Idzik might actually hold on to Tebow for awhile after courting some other QBs for a "competition." Seen it on the link to the right of our screens in this forum.

    My thoughts on that are this...

    I recall some saying in a thread a month back that the reason the Jets don't just release him is because might be worried that Tebow will come back and humiliate them for doubting his (obvious to all but about 95% of the population) quarterbacking skills.

    Looks like there is a solution to that problem too of that is the case. Which I doubt, very much.

    They could end up keeping him for the summer while he tours the mega churches around the country, and then keep him until training camp, possibly releasing him after that. Those that thought getting the starting reps in training camp (Demosthenes9) were all that separated Tebow from greatness on the field, will then have to wait a WHOLE other year for even a chance to test that thory, and he'll be 27ish by then.

    Not good for Tebow fans, unless you think they are strongly considering giving the ball to Tebow instead of Sanchez despite them hiring a tutor.

    I'm still pretty sure Tebow will be gone in 9 days, but something to chew on, Tebow fanatics. The Jets could really screw Tebow out of another year if they choose.

    T-minus 9 days....
     
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  7. JET'S_my_name

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    Tebow will practice even worse in a WCO.
     
  8. JFjets

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    CF, I love ya' man, but you are beating your head against a wall with this thread. Rule #1 in the I Hate Tebow guidebook is that no comparisons to other NFL QB's are allowed if the comparison is favorable to Tim Tebow.

    You've been around long enough to know that. You make the mistake of thinking that the Tebow haters are actually interested in an intellectually honest conversation about Tebow. They're not.
     
  9. Jake

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    Ok, the media then. His media attention will be the end of him. Cant stand hearing about him.
     
  10. Bannon

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    Tebow is better than Brady Quinn. The problem I have with making that statement is that I think Brady Quinn sucks, and will soon be out of the league. So it's not a huge compliment to Tebow to put him neck-and-neck with Brady Quinn.

    All the horrible things people say about Tebow's prospects are the same way I feel about Quinn.

    The only difference, I see, is that Quinn does not have horrible mechanics, nor is he re-tooling his mechanics. So this can be viewed as a positive for Tebow -- Quinn's inaccuracy is just innate. At peak mechanics, he still makes throws that make you go "where was that supposed to be going?" Sanchez does the same thing. Whereas Tebow's bad plays look like mechanical failures -- his footwork and bodywork show that the recipe for the bad or late throw was right there, obvious. When Tebow has a good mechanical play (usually on a longer, slower developing route), the ball is on target a pretty good amount of the time.

    So I've been ready give up on Quinn for a while now, the way most people are ready to give up on Tebow. They're really similar in that way.
     
  11. deathstar

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    They both suck...
     
  12. Diddy

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    Yes they do.
     
  13. JFjets

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    :rofl2::lol:

    Yeah, this makes all the sense in the world, considering how adept Derek Anderson, Matt Flynn, Alex Smith and Kirk Cousins are at running the Spread/Option, eh?

    Fail.
     
  14. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    So your argument is that most coaches DO want to completely change offenses if the starting QB goes down? Or did you just have a strong urge to post some smiles and bold some words

    :eek:hmy::eek:hmy::eek:hmy:
     
  15. usc1978

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    Only in fantasy land would an anonymous source not count as a criticism of a player.
     
  16. JFjets

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    Nope, just that they apparently aren't too cognizant or concerned about it to solicit your expert input and opinions on the matter.
     
  17. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Funny thing, no NFL coaches seem too concerned with your expert input and opinions on the matter of Tebow either.

    You've done nothing to show that most coaches don't want to completely change their offense if the starter goes down, but you sure seem proud of yourself like you did!
     
  18. SF MoneyBags

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    Matt Flynn was the projected starter and signed before Russell Wilson was even drafted.
    Alex Smith was the starter until mid-season.
    Neither of those examples support your implied argument that LTJF was wrong when he said teams should find backups that fit their system. For the record, the 49ers may agree with LTJF since Alex Smith has since been traded and the Seahawks may make Flynn available too. I think I just pwned your hardly working talent for weakly breaking or some shit...
     
  19. SF MoneyBags

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    In addition to being less of a headache than the league's most overrated player (as voted on by his knowledgeable peers), Quinn will also not need much of any coaching staff's time. He will not need help improving his mechanics or reading defenses in film study. Quinn is a finished product at this point, a very shitty one, but finished to the point that a team will not need to invest resources to having him on their roster. That counts for something...
     
  20. CowboysFan

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    double post.....
     
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