Looking at things post combine and doing a bit of re-ordering of the pecking order: the top fifteen by my estimate right now. 1. Luke Joeckel (LT) Had a decent combine and nothing knocked him off the 1 slot. Not a franchise LT though and that's one of the reasons this draft is so hard to call - there is not a single obvious franchise player in it. 2. Dee Milliner (CB) Strong combine but it was other people falling that moved Milliner up several slots. This draft has more question marks in the top 10 than any draft in recent history. It doesn't even have a solid top 5. 3. Eric Fisher (LT) Solid combine and solid value at one of the most important positions. Would be a bottom of the top 10 player in many drafts but this draft is unique. 4. Jarvis Jones (OLB) Big questions about his back are holding back the player who would be the 1 pick by a mile if he was healthy. Somebody is going to take a risk and draft him and they're either going to get the biggest impact out of the draft or be crying in two years as Jones busts to the condition. 5. Star Lotulelei (NT) His abnormal physio tests aren't going to keep the best interior defensive presence down for long. He's not going to go as high as he might have but he's still the fifth best player in this draft. Questions. It's the theme of this draft. 6. Lane Johnson (LT) No questions here, a good LT prospect who would likely be a top 12 pick in a normal draft but gets promoted because so many others have big questions. 7. Sharrif Floyd (DT) Flaming D-Rob alert here. Floyd has been climbing up the ladder in the pre-combine evaluation processes and is most likely going to go even higher than this slot. He's probably going to be a good player too, which is why he's sitting at 7 on my list. He's not going to be Warren Sapp redux though. Like D-Rob he's going to be over-drafted and have trouble avoiding the bust tag due to where he was drafted. 8. Geno Smith (QB) The best QB in the draft class is sitting on the Bills pick. He'd be great value down on the 25 but you can say that about just about anybody in the next ten picks. 9. Dion Jordan (OLB/Freak) 6'6" 248 lbs and a 4.60 40. I put freak as his position because he's likely to be only a mild-impact player if a team just lines him up at DE or OLB and tries to make him fit in a standard role. He's on the 9 on this list because he made 1st team PAC-12 two years running despite not producing great numbers on the field. When you're used like a freak (DE covering a slot WR) that's what happens. 10. Chance Warmack (LG) Would be a top 20 player in most drafts. Guards are just not prioritized that highly in the draft. His value is too solid to slide much farther in this mess though. 11. Sheldon Richardson (DT) D-Rob part two. Another solid interior player here but probably nothing special. Some mocks have him going in the top 4 which would really be D-Rob territory. 12. Bjoern Werner (DE) Good production in the ACC and is likely to be a solid NFL player. Is a bit of a tweener at 265 and probably not a guy you would want to move to OLB. Likely to go to a 4-3 team as a DE. Dropped some at the combine as teams began to get a handle on an unusual prospect who came to football late. Didn't drop far though because he's one of the best pass rushers available. 13. Cordarelle Patterson (WR) Huge questions here with a player with one year of major college experience having a blah combine. He could easily drop into the 20's at this point. Has more star playmaker potential than any other player in the draft after Geno Smith and that's why he's here. 14. Barkevious Mingo (OLB) Two-time 2nd team All-SEC player at DE will probably have to move to OLB in the NFL. Not as good a prospect as Dion Jordan and suffers in the comparison. It's not clear that he's as valuable as teammate Sam Montgomery who quietly made the 1st Team All-SEC in the years Mingo was on the 2nd. He does have really strong potential though and he did nothing at the combine to convince teams they couldn't bring that out. 15. Kenny Vaccaro (S) A slow 40 time at 4.63 hurt Vaccaro's stock a bit but he did well in the positional drills and he's coming out of Safety U so he's still going up high. Two time All-Big 12 1st teamer. Will get another chance to run at his pro day and likely to beat the 4.59/4.63 he produced at the combine.
Jarvis Jones' stock is falling big time especially after not participating in the combine, especially the medicals. He's someone I can see falling big time simply because of his spinal condition. Im pretty sure Marcus McNiell had it also and he's out of the NFL in 5 years. I think after the combine, Dion Jordan's being looked at as a top 6 pick now. I also think Ansah should be in the top 15, especially over Mingo. Some are talking about him being in play as high as the Jags 2nd overall pick. The rest of it is solid though.
We need to get one of these guys 1. Dee Milliner (CB) 2. Eric Fisher (LT) 3. Star Lotulelei (NT) 4. Lane Johnson (LT) If we walk away with one of these in the #9 spot I will be so happy I might shit myself. Milliner would be the best pick since it would wash away the bad taste of losing MEvi$. having either of the tackles would sure up our RT spot for a decade. Maybe over kill for a RT but what can you say, with the new agreement they would be almost as cheap as paying Howard.
I don't think any of the top 3 will be available and I don' think Johnson would be great on the right side.
How so? This teams problem has been putting too much resources in the secondary, so why would we continue to do the same thing? Even if we trade Revis, its in large part because a) you dont build a defense through the secondary b) we already have a #1 corner in Cro, already spent a first in Kyle Wilson and c) we are looking to restock the depth chart elsewhere (OLB and offense). Honestly, Milliner would present good value, but practically no need. CB is the last position we need to address with a top 10 pick. You have to have a combination of value and need when drafting a player, especially in the top 10. I would rather use Milliner as leverage to a team willing to trade up.
if we were able to get Dee Milliner, I wouldn't be so sad about losing Revis. but he's a top 5pick. had a strong combine.
We are losing/trading MEvi$, Wilson is not a good starting CB, Milliner would start from day one and leave Wilson as a nickle. Milliner would help by replacing him, and we wouldn't miss Revis, save a shitload of money and use draft picks for Revis to fill other areas.
We already had the #2 ranked pass defense. I would much rather use that #9 pick where its needed (offense is depleted and we have no starting OLB's)
1. Jets had #2 pass defense in absence of Revis 2. Jets do not have starting OLBs 3. Jets offense sucks So you go and draft a CB with #9? Brilliant, man. Simply brilliant.
I don't think very many people would join your side of this argument my friend. It would make absolutely no sense to draft a CB at #9 given that we have proven to be a capable pass defense despite missing Revis all year and with all of the holes the Jets have on this roster, drafting at one of the few positions of strength for this team makes absolutely no sense. You pass on Milliner, even if Revis is traded away. Also, on topic of the OP. I highly doubt Star is in the top 10 anymore and I have a feeling that Floyd surpassed him in rankings due to his heart condition. Not having Ziggy in your top 15 is my biggest beef. The kid has impressive tape, I don't care that he is raw and doesn't practice well, the kid can play and the sky is the limit with this kid. Especially at his size. I hope Ansah is there when we pick at #9.
I'd probably scream if we drafted a guy with the bust potential of Ansah without trading down about 10 picks before we did it. Nothing against his playing potential but 9 starts and 4.5 sacks is a terrible choice in the top 10 of the NFL draft. Later on he might be a value pick up but he also might get to the NFL and discover that nothing he thought he had learned about football in his short college career was valid any more and then where would the Jets be?
http://www.ganggreennation.com/2013/3/1/4044006/manti-teo-scares-terry-bradway well it looks like pick 9 won't be used here.
