Wow, asomugha and a 4th??? hmy: This would be horrible. Asomugha has struggled the last 2 years and anything less then a first round pick and something else would be a tragedy
I'm making assumptions but you're not? I don't know how much he's asking for? Come on man, the dots are very easy to connect here. If Revis is happy just being one of the highest paid CB in the game then a new deal would already have been made. Do you really imagine a scenario where Revis asks for 11-13 per year and Jets tell him to bugger off? Considering Revis eagerness to hold out for bigger contracts, doesn't it seem more likely that Revis is asking for something outrageous? As for "Tossing him aside without really trying" ... I'm truly amazed you think Jets never bothered any negotiations with Revis prior to pursuing trades. Don't you think you're making an EXTREME Assumption right there? ====== As for Landry, I didn't bring his name. If you are against Jets signing Landry, I recommend you put those comments into another post which quotes somebody's pro-Landry post. ====== Also, Al Davis signing players without giving a damn about the player cap is exactly what you're preaching here. I'm surprised you don't see the connection.
There are plenty of examples of the Jets opting to trade or let go of a player instead of paying them in the Woody Johnson era. John Abraham 2006, Lavernaeus Coles 2002, Santana Moss 2004.. It's the same luck as everyone else that the Jets have a great talent with a big ego and drive for dollars as most of the NFL players are like that. It's our bad luck as fans that our favorite team would rather get rid of their best players than work with that ego/drive though....
John Abraham quit on the team. What kind of idiot owner turns around & rewards this kind of player with a big contract? The pick obtained for him has turned into a likely HOF Center who does the exact opposite of quitting on his team. Coles & Moss aren't #1 dominant WR. Also, how can you possibly bring up unwilling to spend money when the Jets spent so much cash on Cro & Holmes?
W/ the exception of Coles in 2002..Those are completely different scenarios.. For one..none of those players are/were on the same level as Revis. Secondly, there were other moving parts involved in those departures(IE Changes in scheme/injury/regime changes) None of those players held the Jets hostage like Revis has.
If/when Revis gets traded, I suspect there will be people saying he was a quitter or that he isn't dominate or any number of excuses downplaying his impact for the sake of feeling better about this team.... People love to argue all the time about how Revis isn't a pass rusher and that he should be traded because of his position but yet they DID have a dominate pass rusher in his prime - refused to pay him and traded him for a draft pick / center. Mangold is good and all, but maybe this team wins it all in '09 with a dominant DR and JA... Either way, Why do I have reason to believe this team this team is fine paying its stars but they are just concerned about his position... when they had dominate players at "crucial" positions and traded them too?
There was a reason the fanbase started calling him "Jane" Abraham. He didn't show up for big games and if he had a papercut, it turned him into the second coming of Gholston. Mangold is a much more dominant player than Abraham ever was.
The guy is not a quitter, he's the bes corner in the game. He just fails to understand the relative value of the position he plays. And....he's still not Deion Sanders. When Revis gets one, that's about where the offense gets it. Cro is more like Deion, with regard to his ability to take it the other way.
He's also more like Deion with his ability to return kicks in big spots & willingness to play a little offense. Obvious Revis is a better CB than Cro. but I do agree that Cro has that Deion versatility.
I think the Pete Kendall deal was a contract driven fiasco, too, where the Jets pushed him out with no real replacement, and pushed him out for no good reason. Why do you defend Woody Johnson? The guy is obviously a dick who doesn't know shit about football.
It took two parties for the situation to go on as long as it did the second time he held out, and it was widely reported and never disproved that Tanny had promised him a redo on his contract, but did not come through on it until Revis forced their hands. I just don't understand the pov that anytime there's a contract dispute, it's one hundred percent the fault of the player.
With regard to the possibility of a Mevi$trade, many beat writers are writing off San Fran as a partner..... But they have 15 picks, and 5 in the first 93. A first and a second does not seem outside of reality. At the end of the day, you only have a 53 man roster. Even a rent of Revis, doesn't cost them anything they aren't going to wind up throwing away. 31, and whatever...
When it's a repeated iteration? This will be the third. He may not hold out, but we are already getting contract demands.
Big Blockers comment raises an interesting question..... Has anyone informed Mevi$ of Al Davis passing?
Back to this, I along with you concede we are mostly forced to speculate on this at this point. But it does make no sense that Idzik on his own came into this situation intending to get rid of Revis. I smell Woody's presence all over this stuff.
Not to mention the huge investments in Chad, Pace, Faneca, Favre, Woody, Mangold, D'Brick, Harris, Revis, Sanchez, etc. Woody has put good money on the table, particularly in the last 5 seasons. You don't get a cap this screwed up without the owner putting his money where his mouth is.
FWIW ... according to an unnamed NYDN source (heh) trading Revis is a directive of Woody. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...pping-revis-dealing-mistake-article-1.1274592
Revis is NOT a quitter. Only an idiot would compare Revis to John Abraham. If you remember that time well, you'll recall how pissed everybody was because he skipped the playoffs from headaches. Which by coincidence ensured that he would enter FA while minimizing his injury risk. He had the quitter label before he even left the Jets. Have yet to read/hear any of the trade Revis campers disrespect his skill or effort & doubt I ever will. He's a great player & no matter where Revis goes, he's gonna be a first-ballot HOF CB when he retires. ========= Although I think Jets need to trade Revis, I know I'm gonna be really depressed when it happens. Followed this team for decades & just missed out on Namath era. It's likely I'll never see another Jet dominate his position like Revis ever again. If there was no salary cap, I would be screaming mad that Jets are looking to trade Revis. But there is a salary cap. This aint Baseball where you can spend & not give a damn. It's not Basketball where you can go over the cap & simply pay a penalty. Hard decisions like this need to be made. Revis says he wants to be a Jet but I've heard that line from every athlete from every team in every sport forever. Then they sign with the highest bidder and tell everyone it was never about the money. If Revis signs with the Bengals for 16M a season, he'll tell the media it was never about the money. He'll say he was just looking for a team that respects him and treats him like a person and gives his family some stability. Then he'll say that he's always wanted to be a Bengal and can now achieve his dream of bringing a SB to that franchise. I want Revis to retire a Jet. But I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to see the Jets win the SB even more. It just doesn't happen with one guy dominating so much cap space. Revis wants top dollar. It's been repeated by so many media outlets & it makes sense based on his past behavior. There's NO WAY the Jets would tell Revis no if he wanted to be the highest paid CB in the league. He's a player they drafted & it's a little gold star for the organization to have this HOF player draft, dominate & retire for just one team. My opinion is that the only way Jets explore Revis trade options is if he's asking for something obscene. Like Mario Williams + a few more million.
