You are a Sanchez fanboy and you are going to argue about completion percentage? :lol: Mark has a lower career completion percentage. While you at it, you should argue about TD to turnover ratio. Mark is worse in that category as well. I don't care about rumors. It is rumored that Tim Tebow broke Sanchez. Moore had 1 opportunity as a starter for a horrible team and had a concussion week 1. He got benched the next week before halftime. That is hardly an opportunity. Let me be clear. I don't think Moore is a long time solution. I think he could be a good stop gap QB for us until we find our franchise QB. Mark is not that guy. I have seen all I need to see with Mark. He is inconsistent, a bad leader and does not have the mental make up to be a successful QB. If you haven't figured that out by now, you fan boys never will. Even when Mark is a backup QB for some other team, or playing in the CFL, you guys will still be making excuses for him. If Moore won't come cheap, I wouldn't be against this. We wouldn't win many games, but I would like to see what he can do. I would rather lose games and find out what we have in him than lose games because of Sanchez since I already know what we have in him.
Could the Jets be a good team in 2013 ? Could Obama be a good president in 2013 ? Same answer to both questions - possible but highly unlikely.
Only someone who was in a coma for the last 2 years would want Sanchez on their team. Please let him be someone else's problem. The biggest reason everyone has zero expectations for this team in 2013 is because Sanchez is the Jets starting Qb. Fact.
The only reason people here want Moore is that everytime he's come into a game against the jets he kicked their asses
I second this. I rather the Jets suck for a year or two and rebuild through the draft and be a dominate team by the mid-late portion of this decade. Enough of this 1 shot attempt that ALWAYS falls short, like 98 and 2010.
No, this really isn't true. He has played in 3 games against us. He is 2-1 in those 3 games, but we only got our butt kicked in this last game which was 30-9. Moore threw for a little over 100 yards and a TD in that game, so it really wasn;t him who kicked our butt. The other game he won was 19-17 and that was a Sanchez special which gave Mia that game. The 3rd game was a Jets butt kicking of Miami 24-6. The reason people want Moore is that they just want someone other than Sanchez. Moore seems to be the logical choice considering our cap.
:rofl2: So, Moore played for horrible teams, but Sanchez hasn't played for two of the worst OCs in football? You must be a Schotty fanboy. We just think he deserves a chance with a real OC.
I wasn't a huge Schottenheimer fan, but I knew he was better than Morano. I never understood how you guys always credit Sanchez for the 4 playoff wins and in the same breath bash Schottenheimer's offense which generated the #1 rushing attack which was the main reason for those wins. Sanchez has issues that go way beyond an OC. A different OC can't stop you from throwing into triple coverage. An OC can't help you remember the play you are about to run. An OC can't stop you from buttfumbling. The excuses will never stop. It was Schottenheimer's fault that Sanchez sucked. It was Sparano's fault. Next year the excuse will be that Mornhigweg really isn't that great of an OC. It was all Andy Reid. 4 years of being the unquestioned starter and still making the same rookie mistakes is enough!
It's a team game. I don't think that one person should have all of the credit. Instead, an equal amount of credit should be distributed to all players that played good during those playoff wins. He deserves credit for passing the ball, throwing 4tds, and minimizing his turnovers.
My point was that people can't give all the credit to Sanchez for playoff wins and then say the OC sucks. How does that work exactly? The QB is a more important position than the others, so in general the QB is going to get more credit for a win, or more blame for a loss, than he really deserves. Sanchez deserves credit for what he did in the playoffs which was limit the turnovers and make some plays. But the reality is we wouldn't have won a single playoff game if not for the plays our running game and defense made. Those wins shouldn't make us turn a blind eye to all of his deficiencies. He was the #5 overall draft pick and is being paid way too much for what we are getting out of him. If people haven't figured out by now that this isn't the guy, they never will.
Not really. Moore has proven to be a capable backup who can perform decently when called upon. He can also provide some decent competition in camp so Sanchez isn't handed the job. He's a good QB to fill in if Sanchez keeps on playing bad. He also shouldn't come too expensive either. McElroy should be included in the competition for QB this summer in camp though
schotty made some good calls, and our line was built to run the ball and run it well. but schotty also made calls that arguably cost us the game, and schotty was just about never able to adapt in game. no need to keep talking about schotty, he did about the same over in st.louis with a 'better' qb, if things dont get better hell probably fade away. or get a demotion. maybe college is his game. sachez is getting paid too much for his level of play. he is getting paid too much for any level of play he has previously displayed. thats tanny's fault, and its likly part of the reason hes gone, cause that is one of the contracts fucking the teams cap up currently. sanchez needs to play better, but he is also for the first time in his career playing in a proven system. his numbers will go up if he starts, and then what? a restructure might be a good idea, hoping that either he plays better, and then can stay on the team, or if he doesnt get better, will be an easier contract to trade. i think that mornhinweg is sanchez's last hope, but that doesnt mean i think its hopeless.
The thing that pissed me off about Schottenheimer was his inconsistency. He would have a stretch where he would call some pretty good games (2010 for example - 3 out of the first 4 games) then he would proceed to suck for like 4 games. Rarely could he get the offense in rhythm. The whole idea of him trying to out-smart the opponent, never worked not once. Wherever it was pass 60 times against the Giants, or throw 50 times in an awful environment in Seattle back in 2008.
I don't know if Mark can ever be a great QB. Looking back on 2012 I think the NE game was a big turning point in his 2012 season. Mark needs to play loose and with confidence. If Mark starts gripping, he plays tense and makes mistake after mistake, keeping the ball rolling in the wrong direction. With the NE game so close to winning, and with the way it ended in OT, I think this really set Mark up for a tense, disastrous season. Had he won the game and gone on to play the following week loose with confidence, it would have made a huge difference. Mark is soft and needs to feel very successful and confident to play the game he plays. When Mark is tight he over thinks and double pumps almost every throw. When the Jets dominate, Mark dominates. When the Jets grip, Mark grips. And tanks.
I agree with this assessment, I think it also ties to his rookie year when he had the color coded arm-band and the CS telling him he couldn't really make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. Mark is coddled I would agree there, but the CS has done a horrible job in developing him.
thats a good point. hopefully playing in a legit system will be enough confidence to not make stupid decisions. he has tons of tape to watch and gain confidence in the plays being called and their design. i think a lot of marks problem is mental, i dont think he fully trusted sparanos offense, which led to a lot more turnovers with him double-clutching or forcing it into tight spots, holding onto the ball too long etc. i think the biggest mistake the jets made last season was not bringing in an established o-coordinator that has had consistent success with other teams. no more first timers, or guys just chugging along at the slightly below average mark.
