But according to nyjunc, it's good news that he was guaranteed all that money. That way are hands are tied and we are forced to start a QB that has the most turnovers in the last 2 years. How can that not be good news! :lol:
I would rather have a great 2014 Jets team than a good 2013 Jets team. The more pain we take now, the better we can be later.
Agreed. This is why I do NOT want any restructuring. No matter how many JAGs need to plugged into the starting lineup, no matter how many UFA have to be plugged into the roster .... no more salary games. Forget whether Sanchez is bad/good. There should be a priority this upcoming season to minimize any financial baggage carried over to 2014.
I agree with you as well, but that is going to be a difficult situation between Rex and Idzik. Rex is going to want to win now to save his job. I'm not sure how you can convince Rex on sacrificing wins in 2013 for the betterment of the future when his job is possibility on the line if the Jets have another bad season.
The Jets roster is already solid. This draft will bring youth speed and depth. Are you ignoring last years injuries? You get rid of Mevis$ fir a two and trade out of nine you walk away with 2 starting young fast OLBs, and a WCO RB and have one more pick in the top 60. My preference would be any combination of Ansah, Jordan and Thomas at OlB, , and Gilleslee AF RB.
I don't know how good or how bad we'll be next season, but I do know I'll be watching all 16 games and I hope as the season wears on there's hope for the future.
I'm not pushing him here. I think he would be an upgrade. That is my observation based on somebody who watches every Dolphins and Jets game. You do realize that the things we say have no bearing on what actually happens right?
I don't think it's fair to Rex to put a roster together with the intent to rebuild and then fire him at the end of the season for having a bad record. They should establish that they intend to rebuild so that way Rex wont have that pressure to win now with an average roster. I really don't have an idea what Idzik wants to do, but we'll have to wait and see. We're stuck in rock and a hard place. We need to rebuild but we have a coach who could be on the hot seat if the team stinks.
Solid? hmy: Last years roster wasn't solid and we have no clue what kind of roster we are going to have next year. Landry, Bell, DeVito, Keller, Greene, Edwards, Howard, Moore, Thomas and Slauson are all free agents. We are roughly 20 million over the cap and even after cutting Scott, Pace and Smith, that will only leave us about 8 million under to sign free agents and our draft picks. No, I didn't forget our injuries. Did you forget we went 6-10? The injuries that really affected the team were to Revis, Holmes and Keller. You want to trade Revis and it is likely that we lose Keller in free agency. We have Holmes coming off a serious injury, so we have questions there as well.
based on my 34 years as an avid Jets fan we were decent for a couple of years recently so will suck for the next decade….. Hope I'm wrong but smart people say history always repeats itself and the NYJ are set to take that path IMO If Woody really wants us to win it will show in the next few years
I fully disagree. I really do not think there can be any reasonable expectation that this team can compete next year. There is not 1 above average skill position player on offense. That is impossible to address in one off season, then put them together with a new coach in a new system. We will be lucky to score 10 points a game on offense.
Ehh Holmes is above average. I know everyone hates him here and he's not a #1 receiver like Calvin or Fitz, but he's still above average. Obviously a ? coming off of an injury, but if he's healthy he is above average. I also think 4-12 to 6-10 is probably our zone next year right now. But who knows how we look camp and things could change. But hypothetically if the offense doesn't turn the ball over at a huge rate, the defense can hang around in games and keep them close. I see us being in a lot games but the other team's offense eventually pulls away. Maybe only one or two blowouts.
If Morningwig can turn Sanchez into Aaron Rodgers, Hobbes basic contention, the Jets will contend. I happen to agree with that.
I hate when people think things are this easy. 1. Revis may be the best player to ever play his position, it just so happens the Jets drafted him. Right now, there is not one team in the NFL that will give fair value for him. Usually, you pay your best players when there is a big drop off from one guy to the next. We're in a position where we can't do that. Also, it's going to be hard to convince Rex that trading Revis is good for the future success of the team considering Rex himself may not be part of the future. 2. Not everybody you want is magically going to be there when you want them to. One or two of those pass rushers will be available at 9. You also cannot use picks that you don't have. Who is to say anybody will offer any more than a 2nd or 3rd for Revis? He is coming off an ACL injury and looking for a huge contract. 3. Replace all of the injuries we went through with how many starters we will be losing. You will find equal value in terms of how much we are losing. Keller, Moore, Slauson, Landry, Bell, Greene, Pace, Scott, Thomas, Pouha (maybe), Revis/Cro (maybe), Howard (maybe) could all be gone. We are looking at filling a shit ton of holes with very little cap space to do so. 4. While Sanchez will have his chance to improve in MM's offense, chances are he will not. QB is probably another position that will need to be addressed in some way. Now, you never want to have to fill holes through the draft. Your best bet is to have all of your holes filled before the draft, putting you in position to draft the BPA. The BPA may not be the pass rusher at 9 or Gillislie in the 2-4 round. Things do not ever happen how you want them to. Right now, we are lloking at a huge mess. I'm not saying the team we put on the field next year can't be successful because I have no clue what that team will look like. My guess is that we will be looking at anywhere from 3-13 to 8-8.
Games in the NFL are NEVER meaningless to those that play them. The opposition may still have a chance at a playoff berth, and ALL these players are constantly battling for their jobs...those that lie down do not last. There are many contributing factors, so you can't just disregard good performances just because a player's team may be out of the playoff hunt. You can't look at a QB's stats at the beginning of the year and blame them all on him if they look bad, either. You of all people should recognize that...unless, of course, you want to help your argument.
Meaningless as far as postseason goes, there is a different intensity and pressure in games that are played when teams are not out of the race. I didn't blame anything all on him, I just pointed out how bad he performed when they were still in the race vs. how good he played when his teams were out of the race.
Your logic is twisted and self-serving if not outright dishonest or misinformed, though. Totally. With a guy like Matt Moore, the pressure is always HUGE to produce when his opportunities come. He'd be selling insurance by now if he didn't produce like he has. He went undrafted. Do you think that he differentiates between different kinds of pressure...the kinds that mean something to you (and his team's playoff race) as opposed to the kinds of pressure that is his very livelihood? The dude lives in reality. The pressure has not been off him EVER when he plays, no matter what the team's record. And he's never played QB on a team that was any good. Talking about "playoff race" on the teams he's been on and the situations he's played in makes zero sense. None whatsoever. I'd say that he responded very well to pressure in the end. In 2007, he started 3 games his rookie year IN DECEMBER, went 2-1, and they called him "Offensive Rookie of the Month." Do you think that the pressure was not on HIM then? That's an enormous amount of pressure for an undrafted guy who just as easily could have been cut forever if he didn't perform in that situation. You cannot blame him for the situation of the Panthers in 2009, when he got his next opportunity at the end of the year. He stepped up, performing VERY well and going 4-1, only losing to the Patriots. Three of the four teams that he beat were in the playoff hunt, and he very well could have played spoiler to two of those teams. So he's knocking other teams out of the playoffs...definitely the Giants. You don't think those OPPOSING teams went into those games with intensity? I like how you seem to twist the 2010 Panthers season to fit your argument. First of all, that was an extremely bad team overall that only won TWO games that year. All you say is that he "starts opening day," but he got a concussion on that opening day...and yeah, he was benched the following week because of poor play. They had the dreaded Jimmy Clausen on the team, after all. Moore didn't start again until week 7 after it was clear that Clausen sucked ass. He had a season ending injury in week 9 very early in the game. He basically only really started 4 games that year, and didn't play well except for one game, which he DID play well. Anyway, the team went 1-3 with him and 1-11 without him. Also, according to you, these games weren't high pressure situations anyway, so shouldn't really count as much for some reason. The point is that you are absolutely out of your mind to even be applying the term "playoff hunt" to this team. Applying that to Moore specifically, all things considered, is almost criminal. You are either being dishonest or are misinformed when you talk about his play in Miami. Talk about using stats out of context...Again, following the trend and the double-standard, we should blame Moore for not being on a good team in 2011? By the time he started, the Dolphins were 0-4. Drew Brees couldn't climb out of that hole this year. Remember that Moore is the backup here, so he's not getting all the reps in practice, or anywhere close. He wasn't even signed on to the team until around August, either. He wasn't even on the team until preseason was about to start. Is there a learning curve for that offense, or an issue with being on the same page with everybody in terms of timing and whatnot? Yet, with all that against him, he still played pretty well that year and brought the Dolphins back to some form of respectability. The Dolphins went 6-6 with him, and 0-4 without him. He went 6-3 down the stretch. Again, this team was basically out of the playoff hunt even before he started, for all practical purposes. If you gave Matt Moore any semblance of the benefit of the doubt you give Sanchez (if not excuses), you'd see that Moore could easily give Sanchez a run for his money at the starting QB for the Jets if given the opportunity. If you want to hang your hat on the JETS winning 4 playoff games, be my guest, but Moore was never around the same talent Sanchez has been when "he" won. Moore had to fight for everything he got too, never enjoying anywhere NEAR the same comfort level and steady playing opportunities week in and week out that Sanchez had in 2009 and 2010, or since then for that matter. Matt Moore actually has a winning record as a starter, yet he has never been on a team that has had a winning record in the years he has played...think about that for a second.
