My own feeling is Sanchez will agree to a restructure as part of a sign and trade rather than subject himself to the kind of crappy O that we are going to field for the next year or 2.
Very likely. If only because his agent will rally for it. Sanchez is a kicked dog and I really don't see him believing in a future with the Jets at this point. Not that anyone should realistically believe in him having a future here, either. NYJ created an unworkable situation and they need to move on as well. Sad thing is that I see Sanchez having a successful season at QB far earlier than I see the Jets finding a successful QB. Too many gears broken in this machine to simply replace the steering wheel to fix it. People bragging about "league sources" saying the Jets have one of the best scouting teams in the league... well, they are morons.
mark sanchez consistently does NOT put the ball where it needs to be. he never has and he probably never will. he is classic for throwing the ball behind a guy on a swing pass and slowing him down so the lb can make the play. he is notorious for throwing guys into coverage instead of throwing them to stop in a zone. he is constantly constantly constantly missing throws especially those he completes. it would be one thing if he had a 55 percent completion percentage but put the ball on the money 40% of the time. mark however puts the ball "ON THE MONEY" that means on teh back shoulder when necessary and leading a guy when necessary very infrequently. i can remember hearing shannon sharpe talk about playing after he played with john elway. he said it was night and day. elway would stop a guy going through a zone with ball placement, he would lead a guy away from a defender in man coverage. sharpe said elway always put the ball where it was supposed to be and he would know what the defense was doing because of it. he said it was very difficult to play with other guys and that he never realized just how important it was to have a guy who put it in the right place consistently. mark is that guy he gets it in the vicinity but very very rarely puts it right where it needs to be. and thats the difference between a top 5 or 10 qb and an also ran. and that was my issue with mark when he was playing his best and why i never thought he was all that good.
No offense but how the hell do you know where the ball is supposed to be? Unless you have the coaches tape and know the play that is called on 90% of throws you have no idea where the ball should be watching the game on TV. That is the point with crappy receivers the ball can be thrown perfectly and the receiver is not there or did not sit down in the hole or protection broke down. He did not hit the guy in stride so it must be a bad throw is just a lack of understanding of how the position is played. Mark has shown he can make some big time throws he also shown he misses some easy throws. But unless you put on the film and break down each play don't make these type of comments.
It is a common theme for Jets fans to hate whoever they have at quarterback and to regale whomever puts up gaudy stat without actually winning to suit their purposes. Your post epitomizes that. Sanchez has been fucking terrible the past couple of seasons, and has not been a consistently consistent quarterback, but during his first couple if seasons, he was able to get the job done in situations that needed it. Top five or ten quarterback. Philip Rivers is a top ten QB for the past half a decade and has been a terrible choker, a complete loser in the playoffs. I don't see you bashing Rivers, even though he is a playoff pussy. Regular season stats are a retard argument. Eli Manning agrees. If you really want to make an intelligent argument, which I doubt, make one that Sanchez has been unable to get the team to the playoffs for two years. Otherwise, shut your dumbfuck mouth. Because anyone that quotes Shannon Sharpe is a dumbfuck.
i highly doubt the running back is running a crossing pattern with a lb following him and the ball is supposed to be on his back shoulder. its really quite simple. i am pretty sure an in route against a zone defense should not be thrown out in front of a guy high so he has to continue to run INTO the defender. these are typically what mark does. the only pattern that mark has consistently shown he can throw properly is the slant, he regularly puts the ball on the money on that particular route. other than that he is wild on the plate as they call it in baseball. its not way far outside but its not where it should be. abyz im not trying to show any love to elway. i hate elway and hope he chokes on his own horse teeth. however shannon sharpe said things about him in an interview which are exactly the difference between a good qb which sanchez is not right now and a top notch qb. i dont ever see him being that guy that can put the ball where it needs to be on a consistent basis. my point is that even at his best mark is not all that good.
My point is the reason you think Mark is not good (Accuracy) is non-sense perception with no fact or knowledge to back it up.
So your argument is based on the assumption that you are the only person breaking down film? You're telling me that it is not possible for somebody to break down film and come away with the impression that Mark Sanchez is terribly inaccurate? Pardon me but you're coming off very pretentious with such a definitive assumption
Nope the people with these type of arguments base it on a a few passes and don't break down the film. Break down the film then get back to me. Are you not a Dolphins fan? Why would I argue with you about Sanchez? Worry about your own QB.
Like I said, if your point ends with "nanny nanny boo boo I watch film and you don't" it is worthless. What stops the other person from saying the same thing? And your second paragraph is irrelevant and just as absurd. In fact it makes you look really stupid because if you aren't watching other team's QB play then how do you know a QB is doing in comparison to others. 2 terrible arguments in such a short post. Could be a world record.
I would not expect A Dolphins fan to excel in reading comprehension so I will leave it at that. Go worry about Tannehill he is not as good as you think. Dolphin fan bashing Sanchez shocking.
If you were half as good at this as you think you are you wouldn't be resorting to such childishness. Like speculating that I think Tannehill is good. I never wanted us to draft him. See how easy it is for me to torpedo your arguments when they are based on fiction?
Self claiming victory way to go. How old are you ten or eleven? I don't give a shit if you love or hate Tannehill I actually don't care about the Dolphins at all. Why would I care what a Dolphin fans thinks about the QB of the team I support. You seem awfully vested on a Jets board are you secretly a Jets fan come on it is ok to admit it.
Lol you brought up Tannehill Read your past couple of posts and tell me who is acting like a child. This is the last response you will get from me because I'm interested in good debate and you are far from a worthy participant. Others here are not as polite so I fear for your future here. Have a nice life.
yeah let me go break down that film... i dont get paid for this. i dont break down film, and i would never break down film in order to win an argument with someone on the internet. i do however watch the games, and i do however understand some of the objectives to the game. i can say with absolute certainty that a throw that turns a receiver running away from a defender around is NOT a good throw or an accurate one. and no its not every now and again. mark sanchez pass accuracy is terrible, its terrible in completion percentage and its terrible so far as not putting the ball where it needs to be in order to help the receiver make yards after the catch. so go ahead and spend a few days dissecting the tape. it wont make what occurring any different. maybe you can give marty morningwood a call and let him know what you surmised from breaking down that game tape.
Just because a receiver turns around for a ball does not mean it is a bad throw. There are at least two components to a successful pass - the pass itself and the route runner. You are failing to see the poster's argument that you have no clue whether MS is throwing a bad pass or the receiver is not running the route correctly.
if you cant realize that i qualified it when i said a running back running a crossing route with a defender chasing him... its a very simple route. its a guy coming out of the backfield and going across the formation. its a very simple throw, put it in front of the guy so he can keep running... DO NOT put it on his back shoulder or instead of a 10 to 30 yard gain you will get a 4 yard gain or an incomplete pass. maybe the silly receiver decided to run faster just as mark was throwing the ball. yeah thats got to be it. he kicked it up a notch which made the throw behind him. stopping a guy who is running away from a defender is just bad. saying its the route is absurd, the guy is running he is not going to go ahead and run faster, its not like he is coming out of a cut doing a 15 yard in or out pattern and came out too soon or too late and sanchez threw a timing route and it was screwed up. he is running. he has to stop to catch the ball thrown behind him. he is tackled for minimal gain.
Exactly, I am not going to break down the film either so I will reserve judgment on whether he is accurate or not. I have seen Mark make great throws that does not mean he is accurate. IMHO I think Sanchez is fine in the accuracy department where I think he struggles is trying make something out of nothing or making a bad read. He has become to be known as a one read QB which makes sense when you are put on a timer to throw the ball. My only argument is the criteria in which you judge Sanchez is not based on fact but your perception of the game. You maybe right Sanchez maybe very inaccurate but your proof is not very good. I saw a great breakdown of Pass by Pass done by someone from the Houston game but I can't find it. I think that was a pretty good assessment of Sanchez. Going from memory the gist of the article was Sanchez can make some amazing throws he also made some really bad ones.
Never said I was going to break it down but I am sure is going to rely on you watching a couple bad throws from your couch and judge him that way. No he will break down the film and most likely see some bad route running from some pretty inexperienced receivers and a pocket that collapsed rather quickly. I admit I do not really know and will not make sweeping judgment because you think it to be true from watching the game on your couch and proclaiming it as fact.
