disprove me then bradway? sintead of acting like a child taking passive agressive shots at me disprove my points? you can't just like you couldn't when you used to make excuses for why we succeeded under Bradway. When you gave BP all the credit for winning w/ players acquired before him then gave BP all the credit for when we won after him. you have turned into such a whiner lately, you used to be a decent poster.
Isn't it a team game though...? You want to give Saint Chez credit for all the wins, but no blame for all the losses.
The one position, is an offensive coordinator that understands the fucking Polian rule, and isn't calling plays from 1960.
I can't disprove your points because every time I try you shift the argument around to something else so that you won't "lose" it. It's like arguing with water, it always flows away and then comes right back somewhere else. If you think Mark Sanchez is anything but a bad QB right now, based on where we are right now, you're clueless. I don't care what extraneous facts you try to use to make him look better, when you are talking about 27th in stats but top 10 good you're just posting drivel that nobody should respond to. It's just not real. All you had to do in here somewhere was say "I think Sanchez is good" and bow out. That would have saved this thread from becoming a serious of ridiculous ripostes from you as almost EVERYBODY else in the thread tried to argue the point with you to no avail. There's another thread where you're effectively arguing against Ozzie Newsome because "some executives don't tell the truth." You need to get that you come across as an argumentative idiot to many of the posters here. Maybe that would cause you to not post ridiculous garbage, however well contrived, hundreds of times in the same thread. BTW, if I could ignore you I would, however since you choose to post HUNDREDS of times in the same thread in a short span of time that effectively puts the whole thread off limits for me. My alternative at that point is to get you to stop pissing all over every thread you take an interest in. It's not all about you.
Im on the record as condemning the system, for 7 long years. Schottenheimer should have been gone, when Pennington was still here.
We keep going in circles with this argument. It's like an inner city school system. The teachers blame the parents for the students, and the parents blame the teachers, when the truth is....the diminished expectations allow the teachers to get lazy, so the students never get better. Sanchez has produced in big spots. So the talent has been there. He may be shot, but you must admit this is his first foray with a decent OC. You can't say Mark sucks, but only won because of a decent running game, and a great defense, in the age of the Polian rule, without questioning why that is. He's not the Architect.
Try READING. Please find me a quiote where I said he was anything but horrible this season? You can't b/c as usual you make stuff up. B/c he sucked this year doesn't mean he will always suck though, this is the problem folks like you fail to grasp. Anyone who knows anything about this game understands how bad our healthy weapons were and what a role that played in the regression of mark sanchez. That doesn't absolve him of blame but it doesn't mean we throw him away either. Please ignore me, I'd rather have folks ignore me than fail to be able to read what I post. You need attention, the best way to do it on here is to bash me and that is what you are doing. Congrats on that.
We shouldn't be going in circles with the argument. If you want to suggest that Sanchez will miraculously be better with his 3rd offensive coordinator in as many years feel free to. All most of the people who have responded to you and junc have said is that Sanchez sucks now and has never been a particularly good QB outside of a few games. The response to that has been voluminous bullshit defense on your parts that never ends. Nobody needs to read hundreds of posts in the same thread defending Mark Sanchez that add nothing new to the conversation at all. If there were hundreds of posters defending Sanchez that would be different. There's no reason everybody shouldn't get their opinion in and if it laid out that way well that's what it is, the Sanchez doubters can lump it. Instead we get hundreds of posts from two or three posters all saying the same thing over and over again, and then those posts get progressively more ridiculous as the main talking points are argued to death and you need to find new ones (inner city schools man, really?) The MO that junc uses is to make a fairly outlandish statement, which then provokes a half dozen responses to which he individually responds to each one with more outlandish statements. People gradually give up against him until he's arguing one-on-one with somebody. Then he makes another generally outlandish post from a different angle which provokes a half dozen responses, usually not complimentary, and he's off and running again. Before you know it he's got 200 posts in a thousand post thread and you can't read through it because the conversations that everybody else are trying to have keep getting truncated by his kamikaze rushes and the fighting they inspire. It makes threads unreadable.
Typical junc response. ^^ -Ignore everything about a great post. -Drop in a red herring -Finish with a backhanded insult and an arrogant plug
instead of hurling insults you should pay attention and learn. I argue stuff I believe in, I am not a typical fan that sways in the wind like you. I look at the entire body of work not just what a player/team has done lately. Again, this is the same guy who gave BP all the credit for winning w/ guys he didn't acquire in 1998 but also gives BP all the credit for the '01, '02 and '04 teams long after he was gone so that is what you are all about.
The easiest thing to do to rally the average fan is to attack me. PLEASE find these examples of me praising Sanchez for this season? I BEG you, if not pipe down, stop whining and start paying attention.
I don't disagree, my only point has been Sanchez has shown flashes, while his coaches (and this year the surrounding cast) blew. MM is a proven talent at OC, so the jury is out, until this season.
Ive said something along the lines of this before. You get a 1000 post thread with 500 posts from Hobbes and Junc over the same bullshit. It makes those threads unreadable and complete garbage. It becomes trolling at some point... and that point has surely passed. Having a normal discussion gets overrun by the same old repetitive arguments by 2 posters.
If that was the point of the argument - I might actually try to dig through your 1000s of posts defending Mark Sanchez and pluck out a few. But you ignored his point and my point..again. This is why it's impossible to argue with you. You'd make a great politician. Carry on.
A) he doesn't, he argues to argue for that goofy show. b)if he did believe in it he doesn't back it up- I do. His point was torn to shreds like the points most of you guys make. I ask again, find these quotes. The problem is I don't bash mark up and down so it must mean I think he's an elite QB. You guys all struggle w/ basic reading comprehension. This coming from someone who has never contributed anything to this board. Comical.
Realistically, he's never been all that good. He's played ok in some playoff games, and managed not to be a total fuckup. On his career he has more turnovers to ints. He was surrounded by a very talented team in 2009 and 2010. Looking at his stats from just his playoff games, where he played better than usual he had: 2009: 60.3 completion percentage 4 tds, 2 turnovers, 92.7 QB rating 2010: 60.7 completion percentage 5 tds, 2 turnovers, 95.5 QB rating If we consider those his flashes, they're flashes of being a passable NFL QB, but they really aren't that great. Outside of those flashes, he's just awful. Maybe MM will get something out of him, or maybe Sanchez can cut down on the turnovers and up his accuracy a bit. I hope he does, but realistically his total body of work makes me think he isn't going to pull it off.
