Well above average athletic ability, can throw well on the move, decent arm strength, weakness, accuracy.
Keller was drafted the year before Sanchez. Edwards and Holmes were brought in and Sanchez had shown quite a bit of development, but Edwards was dumped and replaced w/ a guy who shot himself in the leg. They traded Cotchery away and brought in a guy who was old and useless. Bringing in old guys like Burress and Mason isn't exactly what I would call giving Sanchez weapons on O. Edwards and Holmes were good moves, but they kept the wrong guy. And if you noticed this year Sanchez struggled big time and he didn't have any of his top weapons (Keller, Holmes, Edwards) from when he was developing. My point was that you see what the Giants did for Eli. You saw what the Falcons did for Matt Ryan. Those teams surrounded their young QB's w/ weapons. The Jets have drafted 3 offensive players in rounds 1-3 for Mark since 2009. And one of those 3 was for Ducasse which was a huge reach.
Left off a lot on the weakness end. As you said, accuracy, but also poor decision making, unwilling to stand in the pocket, footwork/mechanics, inability to read defenses, reacts poorly to front side pressure. WRT "unwilling to stand in the pocket", Sanchez is kind of misleading in a way. The kid can take a hit and shake it off. Have seen him take huge hits that I thought would put him out. That's not the same as seeing the hit coming and being willing to stand in there and make the throw anyway. To be more clear, it's one thing to be able to get up after taking a bat to the head, it's another to see the guy swinging the bat and to say "fark it, I'm going to stand right here and complete this pass".
Fair enuff, but decision making,reading,mechanics are all coaching points, and I would say that while the other half is part innate ability, Those are all problems Brady has, that's how Rex beats him. So, then the key is to adapt to get the ball out of his hands quickly, No?
Besides accuracy , telegraphing passes was a major weakness as well. I hadn't thought of the toughness angle, good point , because he did take some shots. Thanks for the answers
of course but they were coming off winning 4 and if Montana was younger they would have won 3-4 more and instead of only got 1 b/c of what happened in Dallas. The Jets did have interest and if he wanted to keep playing he could have signed anywhere. He wanted to retire and we were proactive re-signing a guy who started in 2 of the 3 playoff games the year before and played pretty well.
What the Giants did for Eli is not a good comparison. The Giants had some stars on the team like Barber and Toomer and had an all pro TE in Shockey on the roster. Barber retired, Shockey was dumped and Toomer retired. The Giants unlike the Jets have a QB with a rocket arm, quick release and a guy who can stand in the pocket and make really tight throws. He was the No. 1 pick in what was a great QB class. His talent level is in a different ball park in spite of the fact he struggled. The Giants drafted a ton of defense and used 1 No. 1 draft pick to bring in a top WR. The Giants have mostly drafted D at the top of their drafts in Eli's era. What they have done unlike the Jets is actually use their drafts. The Jets have brought in tons of talent around Mark. Mark's problem is he has a slow release, mediocre arm, is undersized and is shaky in the pocket. If you have a QB like that why waste your picks? He has to at least show something before you give up Defense and running to develop him.
Yet that QB has struggled most of his career and only won playoff games when his D played lights out. Since Eli was drafted in 2004 NYG brought in: Plax(in his prime) Jacobs Smith Boss Manningham Nicks Wilson Randle Cruz Bradshaw also brought in guys w/ high pickis that didn't work out: Moss Barden Let's not ignore what your team has done for your QB and despite all the weapons his career has only been a decent one w/ 2 great playoff runs fueled by great defense.
I would also surmise that it helps to be the son of a pretty good NFL QB, and taught the position since diapers. San hez has a pretty good arm, and an above average release, but he's been the victim of long developing pass routes. When he was put in the gun by Sparano, he produced very well. The mystery is why they didnt stay there.
He has a slow release and an average at best arm. And I agree with you besides the natural talent Eli had a much better pedigree and was a much better prospect comming out with a much higher ceiling. By the way the Giants throw the ball down the field with long developing pass routes. One guy can stand in and get the ball down the field without having to wind up and have a clear step area to step up into the other guy can't. The Jets wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs and the AFC finals without the D stepping up and playing lights out. The Giants had very good D and their QB made huge plays in 2 SB runs.
Sanchez release is slower now than it was as a rookie and it's not close. He's much more gun-shy after all the picks and he thinks too much before he lets the ball go. This is one of the reasons that he might see some real improvement in a WCO where he has to think less because more of the plays are timing patterns with just two potential targets and both of those in a quick sweep on one side of the field. He's still not going to be a particularly good QB though because he has other deficits related to how he was developed, like hearing footsteps and forcing passes when a throwaway is the obvious answer.
Junc you freakin kill me with these lists, 75% of those guys suck. You talk about Flacco and his talent and you mention guys like Pitta, Dickson, Jones etc...those guys suck ass. Man get a clue Mark is not and will never be elite in stats or wins or playoff wins since that is your favorite crutch. We should have just signed Manning and been done with this bullshit.
75% of those guys suck? do you watch football? pitta, Dickson, Jones(the real SB MVP) suck? I think we can end this discussion now.
He had a faster release his first year I agree, so pretty much the coaches critiqued his throwing motion and well look at it now
The last part, why does Sanchez rarely throw it away? It has come to point where when he dirted a ball on broken up screen I fist pumped because instead of forcing a throw or taking a sack, he just took the loss of down and moved on
He has the attitude of wanting to make a play. That's a good thing, but he does need to know when to give up on a play though.
Sanchez doesn't throw the ball away because he doesn't understand he's losing his job trying to make plays that aren't there. Well, maybe he understands it now with the Jets about to take away his job, but he didn't understand it for the last two seasons when he probably made 50 throws he never should have attempted and completed like 5 of them. The classic case was actually a TD pass this year where he fit the ball into an amazingly tight window and left the announcers sputtering as he did it, almost calling him out for making the pass. It was a great pass and if Brett Favre had thrown it the announcers would have been all over the "only Brett Favre could make that throw" angle. Of course Favre threw a ton of TD passes into impossible small windows and he also threw a ton of picks. Sanchez hasn't earned the right to make a bunch of tight throws that turn into great passes and epic disasters. The rest of his performance is not good enough to justify those passes and despite the occasional great pass here and there he should absolutely not be making those. He should be doing a Rich Gannon impersonation and only making the safe throws while throwing it away at the first hint of trouble.
Junc, Jacoby Jones was lucky to be in the league before this season. He's a kick returner basically. Reciever-wise he's just a run straight ahead, speed guy. Those guys are a dime a dozen. With Sanchez throwing to him, he'd look alot like a Clyde Gates or a Chaz Schilens. Pitta and Dickson are just average TE's. Dickson actually takes a lot of flack in Baltimore, because he dissapoints. Pitta is better, but he's primarily a blocker and red zone threat. He's got soft hands, but neither are better than Dustin Keller in the passing game. Very similar players to Jeff Cumberland, actually. These guys look better because Joe Flacco. What's ironic is that In NY, they'd probably be your argument FOR Sanchez. "Did you see what he HAD to work with this season? For most of the year he had Jacoby Jones, Pitta and Dickson.. of course he'd struggle with those weapons..." In short, defensive coordinators aren't shaking in their boots because of a one-dimensional WR and two average TE's.. Lets not act like Flacco had the 1990s 49ers around him. Lets give him credit where its due. Sanchez would've won 7 games with that team, if they actually let him start every game.
