I don't believe playing that far away from the ball, merits that coin, but here you're talking the lesser of two evils.
Rex's claim is nonsense. Revis can only cover one man at a time. So a team can throw the spread out there and he accounts for one man. This is Rex's assumption: every other member of the secondary needs help to do his job--Revis does not. But Revis can still only cover one guy. The good thing is he shuts down the No. 1 receiver. That is very important. But the other coach can claim that his NO. ! is taking Revis out of the game. And anyway, we have seen good QBs pick apart the rest of the secondary while Revis is out there. He should not be paid like a star QB
http://images.nflplayers.com/mediaR...LLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT 2006 - 2012.pdf 2006 - 2012 CBA (no real change in language. I don't see any difference in the language from the previous CBA for this clause. Based on this new information, I don't believe Revis has any cap hit for 2014. That changes things drastically. If that is the case, how has that been missed?
Rex's claim is that Revis frees up other players. Thus, he doesn't have to put a Safety over the top. Thus not using 2 players on defense to account for 1 offensive player. Thus, I really like the word thus, Rex's claim has validity.
He was actually a pretty damn good tackler this year. In fact I remember him laying the wood a couple times
Big differences. The 5 year maximum is only for contracts entered into from last day of 2005 season to last day of 2006 season. Other contracts have the 6 year prorating which is why Revis contract was drawn up like that. Also, there's no provision about not allowing prorating in years in which the player has the option to void the contract. It's not the case that Revis has no cap hit for 2014 and that's why it hasn't been missed. Money never goes missing from the cap except in the cases of uncapped seasons. There's no way the Jets get out of accounting for the monies they paid Revis in the $18M option bonus unless Revis for whatever reason pays them back the money.
Any contract year in which the player has the right to terminate based upon events within his sole control shall not be counted as a contract year for purposes of proration. Revis has the right to terminate his contract in 2014, and thus it can not be used for proration purposes. Straight from from the CBA. I guess an interpretation could be on the definition of sole control.
The contract got by the NFL's approval process so I'm guessing they treated the voidable years from 2014 to 2016 as not within Revis sole control. Also it does not matter whether or not Revis voids the contract in 2014, the Jets are still on the hook for all bonus monies paid against the cap. They don't have any way out of that and if they claimed they did the NFL would not only hold them accountable for the monies not yet accounted for they'd probably fine them against the 2014 cap in addition for trying to circumvent the cap which is a big deal.
I agree, but how do we know that the so called experts haven't just assumed the same thing we all did with the proration. It's not like anyone has the contract, and knows how it was truly prorated. If you consider it to the letter, the Jets couldn't prorate the contract over 6 years.
The contract got by the Jets lawyers, Revis lawyers, NFL lawyers and probably NFLPA lawyers. There's no way they all missed something and it was the same thing. The issue is just well above our knowledge level at this point. It got approved by the people who should know what they are doing and it has played out so far as if the bonus was prorated equally over the first two of six eligible years. If it hadn't played out that way Revis cap hit would have been about 3 million higher a year than it has been so far.
I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I am not debating that it didn't get approved. I am talking about rotoworld, profootball talk, etc. We get our information, or at least I do, from nyjetscap.com now overthecap.com. I assume he gets his information from rotoworld, profootball talk, etc. As you mentioned, we do not have access to the contract, and don't know the actual paragraph 5. Bluntly, my point is, how do we know how it was actually prorated? Where do you get your information on how it was prorated? Where did your source get it? and so on.
By looking at the cap numbers on places like nyjetscap.com and seeing how it matches up against the actual reported cap space used last year, the year before and projected for this year. When John Clayton and nyjetscap.com agree on a number it's probably the number. If you have evidence that the number was different then that's worth talking about but I see no evidence that it was different at this point and a lot that suggests it was as reported. This kind of issue doesn't stay under wraps for years and then suddenly surface at just the point that the overall question comes due. The NFL is not particularly transparent when it comes to releasing numbers but it's also not opaque to the extent that it would have to be for Revis cap number to suddenly be revealed as being higher than people have been reporting for several seasons. BTW, this *is* harder to do than it used to be. You used to be able to go right to the NFLPA site and get direct access to their database to see what their figures were on salaries, bonuses and cap figures. Then they figured out that people were using them as a backdoor to the numbers and they enabled the userID/password system that they have now.
This conversation has hit a dry spell. I understand that nyjetscap has reported the numbers, and the so called specialists like John Clayton. My point is, they don't know, and are assuming. I have said this several times already. As you also pointed out, it is that much more difficult to find the true numbers. As far as proof, it was just a conversation, and by the letter of the law so to speak, the Jets can not offer a contract to spread the $18 Million over 6 years, and that really wasn't the reality I was trying to get to.
