Jets GM John Idzik said he's a Jet, Open Competition...about Mark Sanchez

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  1. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Were they ahead, before the missed tackle?
     
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    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Combination of both.....
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion but I'm a Jets fan so clearly I enjoy things that piss me off.
     
  4. tbruner12

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    Phil Simms was a bum huh? Wrong again! Simms was twice the Qb we have in nacho! Nacho hasn't had injuries, while Simms 1st 3 out of 4 were! He was in the pro bowl in the 83 or 84, and was the MVP! Taco isn't close to that and it's going to be year 5! The giants didnt develops him, the just had
    So your comparison to Simms sucks, and so does the idea behind "develop" sucks! They are pro Qb's, they don't pretend to bring them up like little leaguers!
    In Simms 3out of 4 first years, he destroyed his thumb, blew his knee preseason, and seperated his shoulder! Nacho on the field screwing things up has little to do with coaches, and more to do with his inabilities to do the job!
     
  5. alleycat9

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    and didnt roethlischeeseburger go like 13-0 in his rookie year and then win the superbowl in his second?

    didnt he also start out 3rd string and had planned to watch and learn until they realized he was better than everyone else they had and let him start after the team was 2-1?

    i think those things might be correct. so i guess there wasnt much reason to panic, you know with all those growing pains and such.
     
  6. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    You're on drugs.

    How many years did it take Simms to complete 60 percent?
     
  7. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    You're on drugs.

    How many years did it take Simms to complete 60 percent?

    Just so everyone know how full ofnshit you are, here's his stat sheet

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SimmPh00.htm


    Yeah, Simms was so much better early on.

    If you are going to be obnoxious, it helps if you know what you're talking about.


    And ps...

    I don't recall Sanchez having Lawrence fucking Taylor, on the other side of the ball either.

    Put down the crack pipe.
     
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  8. alleycat9

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    i dont remember simms having darrelle fucking revis either... he did however have elvis "toast" patterson.
     
  9. Hobbes3259

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    Revis, is not Lawrence Taylor.
    Lawrence Taylor was capable of killing QBs on every snap. Yeah that's what Mevi$ does.

    That's delusional, and goes to the heart of his psychotic contract demands.

    The fact that you don't distinguish between the two, shows how little you comprehend.

    LY reveloutionized the LB position, Mevi$ is a guy wanting to be overpaid because Al Davis revolutionized the monetary importance of a CB.
     
  10. Testaverde

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    I can play this game too.

    Would they have been ahead by 10 instead of 3 if Sanchez hadn't thrown a pick 6 making that last drive meaningless?

    Would Denver have enough time to score if Sanchez didn't go 3 and out from the Denver 47 with 7 minutes left in the game?

    Would Denver have been able to win if Sanchez had put up more than 13 points in 14 drives and not spotted Denver 7 points?

    Get real dude! A QB leads his team to 13 points and gives the other team 7 and you blame it on the D? Wow!
     
  11. Hobbes3259

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    Not the point .

    Team prides itself on defense.
    QB hand them a lead late,special teams puts them on the TWO.
    Defense let's them go 98, 22 on the last play to win.

    Yeah it's on the offense.
     
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    The team prides itself on defense because it can not rely on the offense.

    Sure, the defense gave up a huge drive at the end of the game, but that doesnt define the entire game. It seems like you get so fixated on a few things here and there and forget about the big picture- your defending of Sanchez proves that.

    I mean with your logic for this game, Tebow won them that game and was the sole reason why they won. Screw the pick 6 the defense had or the 11 of 14 3 and outs they forced...
     
  13. 74

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    Is the completion percentage thing your whole argument? weak sauce.

    http://www.capitalnewyork.com/artic...y-about-indestructibility-phil-simms?page=all

    Key points:

    Early career struggles due to injuries- opposite of Sanchez

    unparalleled mental toughness and confidence - opposite of Sanchez

    Giants passing attack was all about the deep pass - opposite of Sanchez
     
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  14. Testaverde

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    Is the point to focus on 1 play the D gave up and ignore the multiple mistakes Sanchez made which cost the Jets the game?

    Sure the team prides itself on D. They held Denver to 10 points the whole game. That should be more than adequate. Is it not reasonable to expect an offense to be able to score 12 points to win a game? When they don't score 12 points and give the other team 7 points it is on the defense?

    Do you blame the defense for the loss against the Titans this year as well? After all if the D hadn't allowed that long TD run they would have won the game. It wasn't Sanchez in that one either. :lol:
     
  15. LongIslandBlitz

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    Revis is the only player on the roster who deserves any real kind of money, instead we shell out huge contracts to Sanchez,Holmes,Harris and Calvin Fuckin pace. Lets trade those assholes and pay the one guy who has always brought his A Game , always shown up every single game he has ever played in a Jet uniform. Who else can you say that about???Tell me one time Revis never showed up.It was always Cromartie getting Burned we are gonna make the mistake of Cromarite having one great year and trade Revis??? Cromarite gets burned big time every now and again(Cruz,Wallace etc), Revis never does. he has given up like two TD's in his history as a Jet. Revis is a true pro Lawrence Taylor was out smoking crack and fucking teenagers
     
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  16. alleycat9

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    the point was that it doesnt matter who is playing defense when we are talking about the qb of the jets last year. why are we comparing him to phil simms? you realize phil played 20 years ago right?
     
  17. Hobbes3259

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    No, I was saving the second point, bc I knew someone would go there.

    Check put his TD/int totals.

    Not good.

    My point is they knew he could be good, but they did not bail early.

    The giants and steelers stick with decisions, as long as possible.

    And pile Up VLTs.

    Being reactionary keeps you in the muck.

    PS giants offensive philosophy was the same. G&P, then ask the QB to bail it out.
     
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    Simms also played mostly in an era when the DB's were still allowed to touch the receivers and destroy them as they were trying to catch the ball. The QB's were fair game too back then. His first years were before Walsh even made the WCO popular too. It was still a lot of 7 step drop, sling it down the field stuff. Not a lot of short passing game like everything is today.

    Now they play flag football with a little tackling. It's a lot easier to come right into the league and have success as a QB. You never used to see QB's come right in and play in their rookie seasons ... they'd sit the bench for at least a year usually. Now it's a normal thing to come in and start.
     
  19. Hobbes3259

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    1 play? They gave up98 yards, this isn't the victor Cruz embarrassment.
     
  20. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    That is a fair observation, but....(Pre Polian rule) his ratio was trash, and he was universally reviled as being "THE Problem" but they stuck by their guns, and worked it out.

    And, the long drop etc, g&P is what we've been running here, which has been my point all along.
     

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