You are right, uncatchable only affects PI not defensive holding. I see where you are coming from. I thought that was the same amount of contact all game and Crabtree was able to push also, it wasn't one sided. Looking back I feel like if they called that there I would have been more upset than right now. But if the game was called close all game, then I would have upset they didn't call it. One of those things where I personally felt the call fit the flow of the game. Another key thing on the holding is that Crabtree was never able to separate to show the jersey grab. He held onto the DB also. I think if he was able to separate himself to show the jersey being pulled off of him, it would have been more blatant and had to be called. That's what they got Culliver for earlier on Smith. He was holding, like he was most of the game, but Smith got away from him showing the actual pull of the jersey. I do know Revis would love if they consistently called games like they did the SB. Hopefully they do :beer:
that's my whole point I guess though.....While I agree the play itself isolated was a penalty.......I think's it naive of folks to think that you officiate a fourth and goal with seconds remaining in the game the same as any other play, esecially in the friggin Super Bowl.......it's just not the case. (and it's also why the NFC champ is relevant) and like I said, those can disagree with me as much as they want, a corner fade is a jump ball....you're calling that play hoping for a flag if it's incomplete, under more normal circumstances, you might get it...you shouldn't get it there. It shouldn't have even come to that.
That's my point. That was going on all game, the one time it was called was when Smith got Culliver grabbing him and the jersey pulled away from him. If Crabtree got that separation, it would have matched the one other time they called a DB for a penalty that game. This just matched what they were missing/not calling all game. By calling a penalty here, they would have actually called the last 2 minutes different than the rest of the game. Now if you want to say the refs were missing it all game, I agree. I thought there were some blatant holding/PI missed, but they didn't call them all game and to call it that tight for that play would have changed how they officiated.
One play doesn't win or lose a game. If SF didn't come out flat in the first half they would have probably won. If they didn't falter on special teams, they could have won. They even received 2 gift possessions with short field situations. Lets face it. The Ravens were the better team last night.
I agree but they called a PI on SF on Baltimore's last drive (probably one of the biggest plays of the game) that was arguably not as blatant as that hold.
Yeah, we know the cliches. And lets face it, a better officiated game then the "better team" might have lost. And what are these 2 gifts you are referring to?
One of the clowns involved is going to write a book about it...Going to be released this summer called "Memoirs of Murder"... And that is a good gif...Guy was stabbed multiple times in the heart and upper body...
The refs did not do their job. Their job is to flag penalties regardless of when they happen. Yes it does, when the game comes down to one play. Any time the refs blow a critical call, you hear the excuses that "the other team should've played better and won." I don't see how that's relevant. The 49ers played well enough to win.
Tcrock's statement is correct. You can look at just about any sport you want, and in all of them, calls are different in the closing minutes of a game. Late in soccer games, stuff happens in the penalty box that would definitely get called in the first half or even midway through the second. Last minute or two though ? Ref's swallow their whistle. NBA is the same way by and large. Guy goes up for a game winning shot and the defender gets a hand on him, no call, unless it's a particularly egregious hack. Now, you could argue that it shouldn't be that way, and that it gives the defense an unfair advantage in the end, and you'd be correct. BUT, it is what it is, and that's how things are usually called (as always, there are exceptions).
As is the case with many other penalities, the clock doesn't stop on holding penalties against either the offense or the defense. The clock runs and play continues. You are correct that a penalty in the end zone against the offense does result in a safety, but again, the clock and the play doesn't stop when the penalty is committed. , but rather, when the play is completed.
again, this issue was mentioned in last year's SB when Giants committed a penalty but a lot of time was ticking off so the I remember some article mentioned the league was going to change the rules going forward. And again, it makes no sense for the game to end on a penalty right? I can think of many of nefarious strategies to guarantee a win if there is 10 secs or less on the clock - just grab face masks, grab arms, limbs, anything to prevent the kicker from being touched for 10 secs because a penalty would make no difference as long as game is over? that is nuts and I'm pretty sure that isn't the rulebook.
The Giants were flagged for having 12 men on the field. The Pats had the choice of taking the result of the play and declining the penalty, or accepting the penalty and having the yardage marked off. Either way, the time that run off the clock during the play was gone. I saw some articles arguing that the NFL "should" do something about the loophole, but I didn't read anything that said that they were going to, or did do anything to address it. As for the nefarious strategies, yes, the rules, as currently written, allow for such things to take place.
not to be nitpicky, but you are aware of what you think their job should be. Could be that they are instructed to be more lenient (towards both sides) at the end of games as I'm sure that the governing organizations wouldn't like the uproar of officials deciding games. (And yes, I fully agree that non calls "decide" games just as much as called penalties do, but most people probably don't see it that way.)
then you can win the game with no time on the clock and full of crazy possible career ending insane penalties. I don't think the NFL (so concerned with health of its players) want to promote such an ending that is deemed legal in the books because the last few seconds anything goes??? I'm pretty sure you are wrong and they addressed it. But in the event the rules haven't changed, that is one crazy scenario that is allow to happen.
