Possible Revis spots

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    "is as"? You still in the third grade? Do they even have the third grade in Hawaii? Can't remember, but I'm pretty sure they go straight from the second grade to mopping floors.
     
  2. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure if it's the same in Hawaii, but it's common for many effete Polynesians to become cross dressing hookers too.
     
  3. AlToon

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    Case for and against Revis

    With quarterback Peyton Manning playing next season at 37 years old, Bailey playing at 35, and John Fox coaching at 58 with two years left on his contract, the Broncos have a two-year window to win the Super Bowl. Because they don’t draft until the No. 28 overall pick in April, the Broncos would have to deal both their first- and second-round selections to get Revis.

    But just as Atlanta forsook its future for Julio Jones, and Mike Shanahan dealt away his future for Robert Griffin III, the Broncos must understand their future is now if they want their man.

    Revis would play at a relatively affordable $6 million in 2013 ($3 million in salary; $3 million in various bonuses) so the Broncos could fit him beneath their expected $121 million salary cap. Yes, he would likely command something around $12 million per season in future contract years, but at 28 next season, Revis could bridge the gap between the Bailey and Manning era, and Revis and Brock Osweiler era.


    http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2013/01/26/case-darrelle-revis/18284/

    The only way the Broncos could realistically acquire Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis is if the Jets would agree to take Champ Bailey in return.

    Financially, it wouldn’t work otherwise for the Broncos. Bailey will make $10.5 million next season and will be 35 years old. Revis will make $6 million in 2013 and can become a free agent after that. There are reports he will be asking for $16 million per year in his new deal.

    Let’s split the difference and say Revis can be had for $11 million per.

    The Broncos are going to pay $10.5 million to one cornerback who will be 35 and $11 million to another corner coming off a torn ACL? That would be 17.8 percent of the team’s estimated $121 payroll on two corners whose best years are behind them. This would a recipe for tearing down a franchise, not building one up into a Super Bowl contender.


    http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2013/01/26/case-darrelle-revis-2/18288/

    Champ Bailey. Jets have zero need for him. Revi$ will command more than $11M per. Can the Jets flip Bailey for a pick or 2? He signed a team friendly extension in 2011. Two years remaining.
     
  4. Martin is the man

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    the only acceptable/reasonable trade for Revis would be trading Revis and the Jets 1st (#9) to the Lions for the Lions 1st (#5) and their 2nd (#36).

    Why the Lions do it: I feel that the Lions are a solid team and a shut down corner could do wonders for them. Just look at their devision. In the NFC North there are some greats WRs including Harvin, Marshall, and anyone Rodgers is throwing the ball too. This one move makes the Lions more competitive and a serious devision contender. They are currently slightly over the cap but cutting guys like Burleson and Vanden Bosch plus you can restructure Stafford who's due 20M. Then with the 9th pick they can pick up a DE to replace Arvil and Vanden Bosch

    Why the Jets do it: The Jets move up in the 1st to select Jarvis Jones who IMO is the best player in this draft and won't make it past Cleveland if the Jets don't move up. With the lions 2nd rounder the Jets can go a number of ways including WR (Hopkins), RB (Bernard or Taylor), TE (Elifrd or Ertz), OT (FLuker), OG (Barrett Jones or Dallas Thomas), another OLB (Okafor), or Revis's replacement/ FS (David Amerson).
     
  5. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Who's your avvy?
    Nice.

    A three team deal would land the Jets an extra pick.
     
  6. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Solid analysis.

    Great post.

    Idzik, should have Rex deliver his wife's pretty feet if we can make that deal

    Jones, to the jets even straight up....is worth more than Revis.

    Edit.. As SJ pointed out the spinal stenosis, throws a huge monkey wrench into that scenario.
     
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  7. SyracuseJet

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    Revis for a 2nd and moving up 4 spots? Pass. Jarvis Joned couldn't pass a college physical, how's he going to pass a pro physical? I don't want him. I'd rather get Warmack. Plenty of affordable FAs we can go after and LB prospects in the middle rounds. If I had my way, we'd go 1 for 1 with SF, Revis for A Smith. Sure they won't bite, but that's my hope.
     
  8. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Alex smith...for Revis?

    You're kidding right?

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitAl03.htm

    There's his stats.

    With better coaching he's not demonstrably better than Sanchez. (and Sanchez is greener having one year of college starts)

    As I said...you take our current second rounder, grab Honeybadger put him in the slot till he beats. Wilson, trade mevi$ use the cap dollars on Landry, Bell, keeping this years secondary in tact.


    Spinal stenosis. Sad for the kid.
     
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  9. laxin

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    Honestly... I think this would be a horrible trade. Essentially trading Revis for a 2nd round pick and are moving only 4 spots (in a draft that doesnt really have a cant miss prospect that will be there). Jarvis Jones is a player that I can easily see falling in the draft. Personally, I wouldnt even take him at 9. That spinal injury scares the shit out of me. Now if we were only a passrusher away from making a SB run and had a small window, I would take Jones at 9. But on a rebuilding team that is a couple years from even being good again, and taking a player that may not play in the league long? Ill pass.

    So essentially for me, this is a 2nd round pick for Revis... Fuck that. We can get much more. We dont need swapping picks, we need to ADD picks.

    I think Detroit is a team that could use Revis, but I dont like the details of the trade at all.
     
  10. MikeSLTJ23

    MikeSLTJ23 Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure he meant Aldon Smith.
     
  11. SyracuseJet

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    Yes. Sorry. Aldon Smith. Never Alex.
     
  12. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Geez. Sorry bro!
     
  13. SyracuseJet

    SyracuseJet Well-Known Member

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    No worries man.

    And it is horrible. So much talent. Hopefully he plays long enough to be financially secure. But, from a business side, I don't want his liabilities.
     
  14. ajax

    ajax Well-Known Member

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    What adds to my worries with this guy is that he's gonna play LB. He's gonna be taking a heck of a punishment on the field. If he was WR like Michael Irving then I'd be more willing to overlook it.
     
  15. RevisIsland10

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    I want 2 number 1s or a 1 and a 2nd at the least
     
  16. ajax

    ajax Well-Known Member

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    If that's the minimum then you should prepare yourself for a 3rd round 2015-compensatory pick when Revis walks away from the Jets. Only way to pull off something close to that is if Jets bargain for a compensatory pick (which is possible) and it turns into a 1st/2nd rounder. Just remember, that other GM is gonna be fired if he gives up 2 first rounders for a CB that walks out on his franchise after only one season.
     
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  17. dusterfan

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    I think Revis to Denver for Chris Harris and a mid rounder or 2 would be ok. Denver is in win now mode. Bailey has slowed down, but he's still pretty good and the secondary would be very good next year with Revis and Bailey. Dumervil and Von Miller coming off the edge would help make it that much better.
     
  18. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    very interesting. so you saying a three team deal?

    hypothetical

    Denver gets:
    - Darrelle Revis

    Lions get:
    - Champ Bailey

    Jets gets:
    - Broncos 2013 first
    - Broncos 2013 second
    - Lions 2013 second
    - Lions 2013 fifth

    something like this.

    I would be more than happy with something like this. we get 5 picks in the first two rounds, more than enough ammunition to put us in the right direction.
     
  19. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The way this deal would work is like this:

    Broncos get:

    Darrelle Revis
    (Champ Bailey cap space)

    Lions get:

    Champ Bailey

    Jets get:

    Broncos 1st
    Broncos 2nd
    Lions 4th

    There is no way on earth that Champ Bailey is worth a 2nd and a 5th right now at 35. The Lions pay the 4th to the Jets for Bailey and the Broncos get the cap relief necessary to take on Revis.
     
  20. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    I think Bailey is worth more than a 4th. maybe not a 2, at least a 3.
     

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