So...I thought the players hated Mangini...

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  1. GreenMachine

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    Newcomer von Oelhoffen glad to be with Jets

    http://www.silive.com/sports/advance/index.ssf?/base/Sports/115564775149240.xml&coll=1


    Tuesday, August 15, 2006
    ADVANCE STAFF WRITER

    HEMPSTEAD, L.I. -- Jets defensive lineman Kimo von Oelhoffen is a man of a few words and a long name. He lets his play on the field do his talking, as it did in the AFC wild-card game last season when his legal hit on Carson Palmer's knee knocked the Bengals quarterback out of the game on his first pass.

    Ask von Oelhoffen about it and he gives you an I don't want to talk about that reply. Ask him about going from the Super Bowl champion Steelers to the rebuilding Jets and he'll give you the politically correct answer.


    I can say that I'm glad to be here, said von Oelhoffen, who signed a three-year, $9.2 million contract that included a $3.2 million signing bonus. Everybody right now is committed to winning and doing what it takes to accomplish that goal. Cannot make comparisons.

    We will.

    On the surface, signing with the Jets was not a wise decision by von Oelhoffen, whose father is German-Hawaiian and mother is Hawaiian-Portuguese. But the Jets likely overpaid him and he's playing in a defense that's similar to the Steelers'.

    In six seasons in Pittsburgh, von Oelhoffen started every game but one. Last season, he finished with 40 tackles and 3 1/2 sacks. Even so, his claim to fame is his hit on Palmer's left knee as the quarterback was releasing the ball. Palmer required reconstructive surgery.

    Von Oelhoffen apologized to Palmer, his family and Bengals fans and said the injury took a toll on him, too.

    With the Jets von Oelhoffen is playing right defensive end, but he'll likely see time at nose tackle. His versatility and experience in the 3-4 defense are what attracted the Jets to him.

    Kimo has been outstanding with the younger guys, getting them up in the film room, talking them through technique, talking to them about the way to approach training camp, giving them some of the tricks of the trade, said coach Eric Mangini.

    ASKEW ON THE BUBBLE?

    FB Jamar Martin (5-11, 244 pounds) could be a huge addition. Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer knows the value of a good blocking FB, because the coach worked with Pro Bowler Lorenzo Neal the past three seasons in San Diego.

    Neal, a former Jet, is the premier blocking fullback in the league and has paved the way for fellow Pro Bowler LaDainian Tomlinson.

    The move to bring in Martin, a three-year veteran, could mean trouble for starter B.J. Askew, who is more runner than blocker and has had a quiet camp.

    QUICK HITS

    The Jets made several calls yesterday looking for NTs and are expected to bring some in this week. ... The Jets have no more two-a-days scheduled, but Mangini has threatened to resume them if he's not pleased with practices. ... CB David Barrett (leg) returned to practice after missing all but the first couple of days. I felt good, he said. I don't feel I'm behind. I was in my (play)book. ... The Jets re-signed CB Jovon Johnson.

    INJURY REPORT

    Safeties Erik Coleman (appendectomy) and Jamie Thompson (knee), CB Drew Coleman (knee) and WR Dante Ridgeway (knee) didn't practice. Dave Hutchinson
     
  2. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    As I noted in your other thread about articles:

    If this doesn't put that BS to rest about how unhappy the players are, nothing will. These guys are football players - that's what they do, that's what they want to do. If they're working hard in practice, they bitch, just like anyone else, but ultimately, they just want to play in games and win as many as possible. Why is that so tough for some people to understand?
     
  3. baamf

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    A more recent article may bolster your point a bit more. How about these quotes from Cannizarros Post article from today...

    READY TO JET STARTED


    NEW HEAD COACH MANGINI HAS PUT
    IN THE TIME


    By MARK CANNIZZARO


    September 8, 2006 -- As you watch the Jets' season opener Sunday in Tennessee, you're surely going to wonder this: Who is this cherub-faced rookie head coach leading Gang Green into battle for 2006 and beyond?
    Let's be honest; Eric Mangini, whom owner Woody Johnson boldly went after in the offseason in an effort to resurrect his broken franchise and bring it toward the heights the New England Patriots reached in recent years, looks as if he could go a month without touching razor to cheek and still not worry about stubble.

    Does that mean, at age 35, Mangini is too young to succeed as an NFL head coach?

    Not by the looks of the way Mangini aggressively overturned the Jets' roster during the offseason; brought in a young, dynamic assistant coaching staff; and installed completely new systems on both offense and defense.

    Not by the way Mangini confidently conducted one of the toughest training camps the Jets have seen in years.

    And certainly not if you measure hours of work as part and parcel of NFL success, because it's impossible that many - if any - head coaches around the league have logged the sick amount of time Mangini has since taking over. It's no accident if his wife and kids have a hard time recognizing him after the crazed schedule he keeps.

    By Mangini's estimate, he might get four hours of sleep a night, if he's lucky.

    "He's a sharp cat," DT Kimo von Oelhoffen said of Mangini. "When you work as hard as he does and you prepare as much as he does, you have to have confidence. He believes in himself. I believe in him. We believe in him. Nobody works harder than that cat. I don't even know if he goes home. I was up here working out Sunday night at 8:30 and he was here.

    "I think you have to do that as a head coach," von Oelhoffen said. "This is a very competitive business. This is a billion-dollar industry. You are here to win football games. There's only 32 of them. You better put in the time."

    Von Oelhoffen, who's in his 13th NFL season and is 11 days younger than Mangini, scoffed at age being any kind of detriment to his coach.

    "Age is not a factor at all; it's experiences, it's decision making, it's evaluation," he said. "He's been around 12 years and been around some good coaches. He gained plenty of experience that way. He had a passion for the game."

    The Jets are hopeful Mangini, who trained under Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick, is an apple that has not fallen too far from the tree.

    "What makes Eric distinguishable from his peers is he has a tremendous work ethic, and it's a genuine work ethic to make himself better," said Jets 36-year-old GM Mike Tannenbaum, who has known Mangini since 1994 when they worked with the Browns together in low-level, non-football jobs. "It's not for face time. He's very detail-oriented and wants to make sure if he's associated with it, no stone has been left unturned.

    "Let's just say we're the best customers of the Hempstead Turnpike Starbucks," Tanenbaum said. "We have a pipeline of caffeine across the street and into the building. We hit them early and hit them late. At various points we both have slept here when necessary."

    Tannenbaum said he sees the same things in Mangini now - on a different level, of course - as he saw when they were scrubs in Cleveland.

    "He had a real passionate commitment to work, and when he was a ballboy, he wanted to be the best ballboy in the league," Tannenbaum said. "When he was a PR intern he wanted to be the best PR intern in the league. He has the same competitiveness to this day. That's the way he is wired."

    So, who, exactly, is this man leading the Jets into now and future Sundays?

    "He seems to be analytical, composed and prepared," LG Pete Kendall said.

    Tannenbaum said, "He's competitive, more compassionate than people probably perceive him to be, thorough and deliberate."

    DT Bobby Hamilton said, "He's a straight-shooting soldier, a great leader. I don't care what has happened here or the history here. I know what he's about. He's just trying to get this team back on the winning road."

    http://www.nypost.com/sports/jets/ready_to_jet_started_jets_mark_cannizzaro.htm
     
  4. The Uniform Bomber

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    Champ hijacks thread in 5...4...3...2....



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  5. baamf

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    My bets are on that rajens088 guy...
     
  6. The Uniform Bomber

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    haha. i debated which one to put. but Raj only starts negative threads based on articles and quotations taken out of context; he rarely has any independent thoughts of his own.



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  7. rajensen088

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    Mangini was the DC for a team that was the 26th ranked defense, 31st in pass defense, 31st in defensive takeaways and the 5th most penalized defensive unit in the NFL.

    Tangini failed to attract any experienced coaches on offense or defense. No free agents of any quality were willing to come to the Jets.

    Mangini did not have a single interview with any other team.

    Where are "quotations" taken out of context.

    You need to go back to the Patriot messsage boards instead of trolling Jet message boards, you obviously are delighted the Jets took Mangini and his 26th ranked defense off of your teams hands.
     
  8. King Koopa

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    Herm Edwards is God
     
  9. KSJets

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    Yeah, but it's a positive article about Mangini. He'll be here. He threw in a jab on another message board on a similar article today so it's only a matter of time before that troll makes its way here.

    Edit: Lia beat me to it
     
  10. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    Wow nice article by Cannizaro, even though Herm isn't spoon feeding that fat pig his Purina he's still finding good things to write about the Jets.
     
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    You're calling someone else a troll? Are you :drunk:
     
  12. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    I've got news for ya.... the Patriots defense wasn't very good last year because they didn't have that many good players. How many games did Bruschi miss last season? Don't expect the Pats defense to be much better this year after making such huge upgrades like Seau. What big time FAs did the Pats ever add? I'm sure you'll ignore it but I'm curious to see what you come up.
     
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    Its mostly Coles...that much is obvious
     
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    Imagine you calling somebody else a troll....:rofl:
     
  15. GreenMachine

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    Yea...OK...1 quote taken out of context...
     
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    baamf your brilliant. How did you know? lol
     
  17. The Uniform Bomber

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    haha. now i'm a Pats fan?

    all you do is spew the same statistics over and over. not many, if any, of the great coaches began their careers with stellar numbers. so, your stats of Mangini as a D-coordinator are meaningless here. take 'em and shove 'em.

    by the way, i'm wondering if Justin Miller is any good. can you give me the link to that bogus site you constantly refer to that says where Miller ranks? haha.



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  18. King Koopa

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    yea that much is obvious to most normal people around here....their secondary last year without rodney harrison/others being dinged up was probably bottom 3 in terms of talent....rajenson is either mentally retarded or just a troll/herm edwards d rider.....but i'm guessing both
     
  19. King Koopa

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    lol i miss seeing that link 5 times a week..... Champ>>>>>Rajenson
     
  20. The Uniform Bomber

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    agreed!



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