did they score on the return? NO, the INT wasn't as bad. Did Indy have a chance to tackel Samuel in '06? Porter in '09 or the Bal player yesterday? NO.
Except he came through 8 years ago. Peyton ,Brees, Rodgers, Big Ben and Eli have all won SB since he last won his. How long are we going to let something from 9 years ago carry over? He would have cemented best QB ever by going 19-0 and blowing the doors off of NYG. He put up 14 points. He could have made another redemption attempt against NYG, he put up 17 points. The game before both these SBs he threw for 2 TDs and 5 INTs. In his 1st SB run, did he not get injured and Bledsoe came in and the Pats won anyways? In his first SB did the defense not give him 7 points and hold the greatest show on turf to 17? Did they not set up the other FG? You explain away Peyton's games but you never delve into Brady's game.You just take the stats.
You are joking? Champ Bailey went 99 yards and because Watson chased him down it's okay Brady threw away at least 3 points and let it turn into 7 by giving his defense one yard to defend? :lol: So Peyton's INT in double OT was okay right? Because he gave his defense a chance to stop BAL from going 10 yards to get into FG range? :breakdance:
Broncos defense pulls an epic choke job with the game in the bag with 30 seconds to go and Tebots hang their hats on that as Tebow is about to exit stage left for the CFL. Why am I not surprised? I don't give two shits about the Broncos succeeding or not other than I thought they had a better shot of finishing off the Pats. This is just a real lame move by the tebots. Basically the icing on their massive cake of lame.
The Ginat D played great, that's why Eli has 2. all those pass rushers were the key to stopping Brady in those SBs(not to mention his best weapon was hurt in the last SB). he still ahs 3, only 2 guys have more than 3 in the history of the sport and he didn't throw 3 TDs and 7 INTs in any SB run. where are the chokes from Brady? he's had some subpar games but where has he thrown a pick on a potential tying drive late like in SB XLIV? or like yesterday?, like Pitt '05? SD '07? where are these games for Brady? It's ok to have bad games now and then but to consistently be the reason your team fails to advance isn't a good things.
It's a combination route. he's not going to throw as soon as Decker is going into his break. He's looking to see if the slot receiver will get open down the field. If not then he looks underneath. He made a throw and the pass was completely catchable. Decker let it bounce off his hands and into the defenders for a pick-6. This is not on Manning.
I just don't understand the point of the discussion. If it's that Peyton chokes, of course he does. He did it with his own team and now the Broncos. I just don't understand why the 'Tebow's former team' comment come into play.
I think it's that in their special little Tebot way, ignoring all the circumstances surrounding the events that occurred, they feel justified in thinking the Broncos should have stuck with Tebow because Peyton only got them as far as Tebow. That's typical tebot thinking btw, but this time it's especially squirrelly since Tebow is likely about to land in the CFL.
aaah because I am a tebow fan...and there was a tebowmania section (they moved it from there for some reason) and this board is full of Broncos fans that came over to bash on tebow since day one of his signing with the Jets. Glad we agree on Peyton the choke master.
You are wrong, so I will spell it out for you and will represent "tebot" nation (being called a tebot beats being called a cocksucker so thank you). 1000% Peyton should have been signed by Broncos when they got the chance. I agreed with it as well as every tebow fan I knew when it happened . it sucked because it meant that tebow was going back to the bench but we understood. what was complete bullshit is Elway then forcing him out. No matter what anyone thinks of his playing ability he was put in a tough spot on a team that had been going no where for years and at the very least brought energy to the franchise and he helped with a real cool run. His reward for that was to get run out of town. Why not keep him on the bench and develop him? Even the owner of he Broncos said they should develop him. Please spare me the crap about his fans, the worst was over and every Tebow fan understood. All tebow fans would have preferred him staying and being welcomed and developed behind one of the best regular season QBs ever. Instead they run him out of town and Tebow , like at the end of Indiana Jones and the last crusade movie, "did not choose wisely" and the rest is history. So pardon me if I laughed and laughed and laughed when the Broncos choked in epic fashion, with their 95 million dollar kneeling QB (hey maybe he was Tebowing for luck before the overtime!) . I am still laughing. Thank you for saying it 105,032,987 times. Its always appreciated.
I watch First Take for the first time in awhile and I agree with Skip Bayless. The majority of the blame goes to John Fox. He played not to lose and lost. He has PFM as his QB and took the ball out of his hands? Wow! He lost Super Bowl 38 because he played not to lose, lost to the Chiefs in 2011 in the last game of the season with the division title on the line because he played not to lose, and now this game, which might top the previous 2 combined.
Fox deserves his share of the blame but ultimately it's on Peyton. He was handed 2 Tds by STs and still couldn't win.
Yeah Peyton Manning choked but the blame shouldn't be on him. The defense in itself shit the bed and mainly because Champ Bailey couldn't cover Torrey Smith at all
That's what I'm thinking. Anybody who saw the games knows Manning takes some of the blame, but the most crucial points in the game was a blown coverage by the S for an easy....EASY...INT, and Fox's ridiculous calls to close the game out. Plenty of blame to go around, not just on Manning.
Fox is terrible in certain situations (and real good in others so he is an enigma) , no argument from me and yes for this game Fox gets more blame but the post is about the totally of Peyton's flame outs as well. Thank you for the feedback but I posted it in tebowmania first (it was moved) as a tebow related post because of all the Broncos fans that have joined the site to bash Tebow...(a Jets player being bashed by other team's fans etc) but I also think Peyton's playoff record needed some examination and apparently so did ESPN, NFL Network, NFL radio (big time) etc. its not just me , yes I took a humorous angle on it (if you read through thread you will see some tongue in cheek stuff) because of the ax I am grinding (no apologies for that and I am straight up about it) but it should not take away from the fact that he has some real bad post season numbers. oK those are reasonable statements How about for this game: 40% Defense 30% Fox 30% Peyton That's reasonable but I am biased.
