You have to keep in mind that we will only have 38 players under contract, if memory serves me right. As the article says, only 10 starters left. In addition, you have to consider 2014, and 2015 in the situation. 2014 - 26 players under contract 2015 - 10 players under contract I can't imagine that this isn't unusual, as I haven't looked it up, but my point is that the GM has to get it right year 1. For an eager candidate this may be a fun challenge, but for a conservative candidate, well, it may seem like climbing Mt. Everest without safety straps.
Add that to not picking your own coach, and it is a less than perfect scenario. Most of these guys realize that if they are not successful there is no guarantee they get a 2nd shot at being a GM. So the ones who have faith in themselves will wait until the what they believe is the right job comes along.
Huh? You weren't offered the job means you weren't interested? Are you kidding? You weren't offered the job for one of two reasons; either you were not considered qualified or you weren't considered a good fit. I interview job candidates all the time. I'm yet to withhold an offer because the candidate wasn't interested in the job. If they weren't interested they would turn down the offer.
Heckert has no room for failure or a slow start. He went two and out in Cleveland, doing the same for the Jets would effectively end his GM career.
Turk, please tell me a recent big-time free agent/coach who picked the JETS because of the big market? OK, thanks. Since Belicheck left, we've had Al Groh, Herm Edwards, Eric Mangini and now Rex Ryan. Not Cowher, Holmgren, etc. I've never heard a rumor that a big name coach wanted back in the NFL and wanted specifically to be in New York to do it. NEVER. Free agents? LT? His career was on the decline. Where is the proof that the Jets being in New York is a motivating factor to play here? The most recent free agents left Baltimore for Rex Ryan, not New York. It's about the organization and the coaching staff. Period. The rest is just media-driven. There are high stakes for every NFL team; they're run by billionaires. Jacksonville fired their coach after 1 season; was it media pressure? Does the entire league know Blaine Gabbert is an awful quarterback? You don't need three backpages for that. NFL.com/NFL TV is fine. Yes, more newspapers cover the team but the only people who care live in NYC/NJ. Every city holds its team to a high standard, not by reporters on the beat.
i am pretty sure that jacksonvilles new gm fired the coach after 1 season. its just the way things go most of the time in the nfl... well other than here.
I'm not a believer in this theory. I don't think anyone who interviews for a GM job a week after the previous GM was fired thinks they're walking into a rosy situation where all is well, and the team is ready to make a Super Bowl run. These guys are just stating the obvious: the team IS in salary cap hell. Even after all those moves, they still need to sign a bunch of players.
Maybe it's just an excuse and they don't want to work for a dysfunctional owner. The salary cap issue is just a one season problem. If the Jets have a good draft this year, then they can build for the 2014 season. Then they can sign some expensive free agents. Everybody knows the Jets have a salary cap issue, so there's a built in excuse for having a poor first year. I think it's just an excuse.
The higher the position you interview for, the more likely the situation is that you're coming to the rescue, not continuing the process. Any GM interviewing for the Jets job already knows the situation and if he still wants in, then he has to take what comes with the position. That means he'll share power with Rex Ryan and if there's ever a disagreement, he will lose since Woody has stated publically that Rex is his man. That's the reality of the Jets' open GM position. Take it or leave it. Most I fear will leave it. Even though there's only 32 GM positions available, you don't have to jump at one as unattractive as the Jets' position but perhaps , just wait for a better opportunity. We're not talking about folks making $50K annually here. These candidates ain't welcoming shoppers at Walmart. They can afford to wait for a better job to come along.
My numbers from 2014 were in response to a few people saying "no one wants this job because we are cap strapped and screwed for the next 5 years" due to guys like Holmes, Mangold, etc. I was saying that if the GM that takes this job hates the team as currently constructed so much in 2013, he can clean house a lot of those big name guys for not-so-massive dead money hits. The cap problems always have been overblown. There are ways to circumvent the cap by converting salaries and bonuses, and the Jets always find a way to get creative accounting-wise. And I don't think this team needs to be "blown up" like a lot of people do. I think with Rex and some of the pieces we have on defense, we have an 10 to 12 win defense. We have a decent OL that needs help at RT for sure. We have a good enough running game, and when healthy we have enough capable WR's if Braylon stays with Holmes, Edwards, Hill, and Kerley. The problem is we have a 4 win quarterback. Mark Sanchez is like the 28th to 32nd QB in the NFL. You simply cannot overcome that and go to the playoffs with that type of QB play no matter how good your defense is. The only place I think the jets are hamstrung by the cap is with Sanchez for 2013 because of that ridiculous extension. I will agree with that. That's fair, I respect your opinion. But how good were Pace, Bryan Thomas, Eric Smith, Jason Smith, and Bart Scott? I would say besides Jason Smith who was a backup, they were all below average starters this season. Almost anyone that you pick up will have a good chance of being better. As I said, how much of a difference was there between Antonio Allen (7th round pick) and Eric Smith? Not much. Eric Smith absolutely blew in coverage and you knew he wasn't going to get any better. Same thing with Bart Scott. At least with Allen out there, there is a chance for growth and improvement. The same thing with a 4th or 5th round flier at LB over Scott. The drop off from Bart Scott to guys like Demario Davis or even Josh Mauga (if he was healthy)? Not much. And to be honest, I didn't notice much difference between Garrett McIntyre and Calvin Pace/Bryan Thomas when all was said and done. Both McIntyre and Mauga were undrafted free agents. Hell, I even think a healthy Ricky Sapp would be better than Calvin freakin Pace.
I agree with you, but I was responding to the poster who specifically stated that they can draft guys in the 4th-7th round this year to replace those guys.
Antonio Allen. Josh Bush. Terrance Ganaway. Robert T. Griffin. Jordan White. That is rounds 4-7 for the Jets in 2012. Also, keep in mind, Allen wasn't starting. He had 6 tackles this season for a safety who plays up in the box. No pass defenses. No Ints. 1 Sack. He was in 72 snaps for the season. Smith had 322. This would be the 'gem' of the latter round of the draft. The idea that he was going up against strong competition play in/play out when he wasn't in on that many plays seems illogical to me as a basis for the jets just replacing starters with late round draft picks. As bad of those players were or are perceived to have been, there is a reason the coaching staff and Rex Ryan had them as starters over those other guys.
i wouldnt even bother trying to explain it to a guy who thinks we can get rid of half the starters on the team and replace them with our round 4 to 7 draft picks. there is no sense there.
Revis bonus has already been paid and all of it will accelerate onto the cap when he is cut/traded/leaves in FA. The Jets paid him a $21 million dollar bonus on the 2010 contract. So far $9 million of it has come off the cap, 3 million each in 2010, 2011 and 2012. That leaves $12 million still to go of which $3 million will come off in 2013 and then the remaining $9 million all at once when he leaves.
I suspect other things are at work here. Listening to all the scuttlebutt, I think having an owner who knows nothing about football being hands on. I think most GMs like to make all the decisions, and with the Jets it seems everything has to be solved by consensus. That just holds things up. If you have noticed most of the people who have come in are personnel people. What I've heard and read is the GM will concentrate on that aspect, while someone else does negotiates contracts. In the end, all decisions have to be run through Rex and Woody. A good personnel guy can stay where they are at and not worry about the aggravation of dealing with those two and moving the family. If this is true...my message to Woody is MOVE BITCH..GET OUT THE WAY!!!!
My general point is that the guys that the Jets are going to cut to save cap space are not even close to key pieces going forward. All of them needed to be upgraded anyway, via free agency (veterans or mid level guys) or the draft. Yes, drafting in round 4 to 7 is often a crapshoot, but if you do your homework and study the draft well, you can find good role players and even starters every once in a while. Richard Sherman and Kam Chancellor were 5th round draft picks. Brandon Browner was an undrafted free agent playing in the CFL. This is a good example of my point: Calvin Pace played 1,010 snaps and Garrett McIntyre, an undrafted 28 year old journeyman from Fresno St, played 408 snaps. Pace had 55 tackles and 3 sacks. McIntyre had 35 tackles and 3.5 sacks while playing 602 less snaps. McIntyre is a fringe NFL player at best and he out-produced Pace on a per-snap basis. How hard could it possibly be to replace Calvin Pace? He was out-produced by a 28 year old guy who went undrafted in the 2006 draft and then bounced from Seattle to Arizona to Tennesse to the AFL to the CFL and then to the Jets. I feel the same exact way with a guy like Antonio Allen vs Eric Smith. Eric Smith had 16 tackles, 0 sacks, 1 INT playing 322 snaps. Antonio Allen had 6 tackles and 1 sack playing 72 snaps. It was pretty clear that Eric Smith sucked balls every time he stepped on the field. He could not cover air and he was not as strong against the run as he was in years past. How much of a possible drop off could there be from Smith to Allen? Same thing with Demario Davis and Bart Scott. Scott is no longer the wrecking ball he used to be vs the run and cannot cover any decent RB or TE in this league. Yes, you are correct. At first glance I thought since the contract would be void (and he wasn't being cut) that there would be no dead money but when I went back and looked at it the scenario you suggested is exactly what would happen.
Jet's can't even give the GM job away Appearing on FOX NFL Sunday, Jay Glazer said the Jets "can't give the position away" when talking about their general manager vacancy. "They're calling back candidates who already turned them down," added Glazer. "Their cap situation, personnel, QB and the circus turned a lot of candidates off." One of those candidates could be 49ers director of player personnel Tom Gamble, who was once considered the odds-on-favorite for the job but may have spurned the Jets. ESPN's Adam Schefter mentioned earlier on Sunday that ex-Bears GM Jerry Angelo is a "name to watch."
