I like Lewin but he just seems like more of the same of what the Jets already have. He's a brute powerful downhill type. yeah he's got decent feet & a decent wingspan for pass pro..but he doesn't have that elite package you look for in a first round RT.
He held his own vs Clowney last week which is very impressive from a pass protection standpoint. Something WW brought up, was that if you draft Lewan, Howard could kick inside to guard. He's tall, but this would hide some of his shortcomings in pass protections- mostly the lack of great quick feet.
Howard maybe alittle too tall for guard.It all depends if he can bend & get enough leverage in the phone booth.Rex has talked up his ability to bend in the past so perhaps thats a possibility. As for Lewan/RT. I just don't think you spend a top 10 pick on an OT unless he's your blindside guy or elite in both Pass pro/Run blocking as an RT. Much like guard,the position doesn't have that type of long term value otherwise. Lewan is certainly solid in both aspects..but he is not elite.
We all need to be ready for the 1st pick to be a pass rush OLB. It's gonna happen. RT might get addressed, it might not, but the first pick is gonna be a OLB that can get after the qb.
Why? The offense is the group that needs the help. Fuck the defense and fuck Rex Ryan. Im so sick of leaving the offense empty handed and letting them role out with absolutely no talent. If this philosophy doesnt change, dont expect the overall downward trend to either.
Here's the thing IMO, if you want an OT that can start as a rookie, you'd better draft him in the first round this year. There are some good ones, but there are some terrible OLs out there right now. Here are teams outside the Jets who could be looking at drafting an OT early in my estimation: Philadelphia (4th) Detroit (5th) Arizona (7th) San Diego (11th) St Louis (16th, 22nd) Pittsburgh (17th) Dallas (18th) Chicago (20th) Would you really want to wait until the pool is that picked-over when pick #39 rolls around to see who is left? If you have a shot at Lewan and you think he is good, you should take him. I'd say the best case scenario for the Jets if you're looking to replace your RT is for Fluker to be available in the second, but with so many teams needing an OT, that looks like wishful thinking to me. But what do I know... I thought Cordy Glenn was a lock to go top-20 last year.
Not that I disagree w/ you..but who are the offensive prospects at #9 worth considering? Outside of Lewan & Warmack who would be reaches their just isn't any value. Even beyond their paralysis on offense the Jets biggest need is playmakers. Unfortunately the best case scenario for the Jets to land a playmaker at #9 is w/ a pass rusher.
I think you're selling Lewan short. He's not elite as you mentioned, but no player at #9 is going to be a top player in the draft. The Jets , IMO, really only have one qualified OT on their roster and that's DBrick. Howard has terrible footwork and isn't a protector of the edge, the people that think Howard should be our RT are kidding themselves, he's better than Hunter, but not by a lot. I have no issue using the 9th pick on Lewan to put at RT immediately and be an excellent fallback in case DBrick goes down. The Jets have been lucky DBrick has been just about 100% healthy his entire career, it's going to catch up to us someday. The is no value at #9 for playmakers, at least in early Jan. I think we will see a few fast risers after the combine, maybe a WR and possibly a RB. As of right now, if he falls Werner is my target, than Lewan & Warmack.
I agree with this. This is not a great draft to be drafting top 10. No impact WR, the top DEs and CBs are not elite-category players, the QBs all have pretty big question marks. Take the player you think will most improve your team.
I thought "rebuilding" an unit was necessary when it sucked? OL is average, that is clear. Two of the "questionable" guys are also high potential and improving. The skill positions? Those we need to rebuild.
I'd be really upset if we picked up OL at #9. Trade back, get some more picks then pick up OL. I think Howard was OK at RT and probably could get better, not saying he's the answer, but at #9 I wouldn't like OL. The Jets need to trade back to get more playmakers later on. We need a running back in the second or 3rd, maybe a developmental WR to take Holmes' spot next year with Hill on the other side, or a developmental QB to sit until next year. Only way this can be done is if we trade back and pick up extra picks. Also, we need OLBs, unless were willing to give Maybin another shot, which I wouldn't mind bringing him in for training camp at least.
Honestly, there are a couple of tackle prospects I like for the late first or 2nd round. Oday Aboushi is probably my favorite of those, he's still abit rough around the edges but if he wasn't then he'd be a sure first rounder.
But who will want to trade up with the Jets? This is supposed to be a weak QB class & offensive playmakers @ RB/WR isn't looking well represented in the first few picks either. Best hope of trading back imho is that no QB is taken earlier in the draft. Then the teens are coming and some of these teams feel it's not such a reach to jump up and grab one. Unfortunately, I think it's unlikely scenario.
IMHO two likely possibilites for trades in the draft at this point, one of the DT's drop, One or two Corners disappear in the top 5. I don't think QB will effect first round trading if no QB's are selected in the top 8 because most of the teams with QB issues will have already passed on them for that round.
I agree that Howard was decent and I think will improve with a full offseason as a starter and our line would be tough if we draft Warmack
Do we really need to go for a tackle? I looked at PFF for a rating of Howard and this is what I could find... He was ranked 9th out of upcoming free agent tackles
absolutely. Rodgers was the most sacked QB in the league, but their line has been playing great as of late. Barclay and Newhouse both had good games against SF last night.
