Am I the only person left with faith in Ryan/Sanchez?

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  1. JetsKickAss

    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    Yeah.....and what did the Jets do to build on his first 2 years of success ??

    #1 WR ? Bye - bye....

    # 2 WR ? Bye - bye.....

    #4 WR ? Bye - bye.....

    Now Mark, go out and beat Tom Brady and Peyton Manning again for us.

    Read Lupica's column today.
     
  2. 21stAmendment

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    I still have faith in Ryan as a defensive coach. In a perfect world we would find a new head coach, and Rex would be demoted to defensive coordinator, so he could become our Dick LeBeau. Since that isn't an option, I'd give the new GM the option to keep Rex or fire him. He's become a distraction, so I'd consider firing him.

    Sanchez I'm done with, he's horrible.
     
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  3. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    Mind = blown
     
  4. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I have no faith in Sanchez and don't want to see him behind center for the Jet anymore but I wouldn't be shocked if he landed somewhere with good offensive talent and offensive coaching and played well. The Jets terribly mishandled him.
     
  5. JetsKickAss

    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    I don't want to hear from a single TGG poster in a few years when Sanchez turns it around for another team and is headed to the Super Bowl.
     
  6. Wahoo

    Wahoo Well-Known Member

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    Can you give me some specific examples of Ryan's "incredible defensive mind"? For the first half of his first season, the defense was impressive, racking up big numbers, especially in the sack department. After the league saw film and adjusted to his blitz schemes, that faded away, and Ryan hasn't been able to recapture that dominance. The d has been solid, but no where near what it was those first eight games. And I've lost count of the number of big plays and drives they have given up in crunch time.

    When I ask this, I usually get the "well the defense has been good". A lot of defenses have been good. What specifically has this guy shown that supposedly puts him head and shoulders above the other defensive gurus in the league?
     
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  7. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Deal, and on the day he quietly rides off into the sunset after spending a few years as a non-descript backup in some NFL wasteland like Jacksonville, you'll certainly hear from US.
     
  8. NYJetsMetsCTHuskies

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    Wow... Sanchez got you hooked. Lol
     
  9. milcus

    milcus Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez is out of the league after another 2 years. Like Akili Smith, Tim Couch, JaMarcus Russell, etc.., before him, who people like you thought needed a change of scenery and then would thrive, no one is ever giving Sanchez another chance, and he will be out of the NFL in a few years.

    So, enough with this crap about Sanchez being better on another team. You can put him on the pro bowl, and he would still suck. The guy is simply not an NFL player. Nothing wrong with that. But stop making him into something he is not.
     
  10. 2insane

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    Pulling a Kurt Warner?
     
  11. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    As a Jets fan wouldn't you rather the turnaround happen here.
     
  12. NJJ_Jersey_Jets

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    Rex: I still do
    Sanchez: I think he can at least become average, but he isn't a franchise QB or worth the contract he's getting.
     
  13. Jets1035

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    With Ryan as the HC, Sanchez has no chance to develop. He will regress
     
  14. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    That's assuming there will be a turnaround. It does not look likely. I can't recall a single QB who regressed this badly and actually turned it around to be more than anything but a decent backup.
     
  15. WillyBeaman

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    Regress is a strong word. He has never posted an even respectable QBR. The guy stinks. At his absolute best, he was a barely serviceable game manager on a LOADED team.

    It's not like he was ever approaching being a franchise QB.

    Luck is going to lose this game but he played with more guts than Sanchez has displayed in his entire career. Threw the ball 60 times. Exact opposite of Sanchez-gunslinger on an undermanned team. Simms keeps harping on it in terms of the Colts bringing him along without training wheels. Jets waltz to Super Bowl in 2009 with Andrew Luck.
     
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    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    See Alex Smith who many on this board now believes is the solution.
     
  17. RobertTheJr

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    Please define loaded. I don't remember seeing a NYJ's team loaded. Do you mean loaded like Thomas Jones was a beastly runningback loaded? Or loaded like we had an insane WR core loaded?

    I have never seen any of our players leave, sans the ones that we never used, go to another team and help.

    Having Thomas Jones, Braylon, Cotchery, etc. on your team means your team is stacked?
     
  18. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    C'mon, even last year he never carried them at all. He was efficient and didn't make mistakes. While that's a huge improvement over what he did previously, and what Sanchez has done the last couple of years, that's not what you expect out of a #1 overall pick, and it wouldn't be good enough for me with a #5 overall pick.
     
  19. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. The Jets have not had a big-time impact player at an offensive skill position in a long time. Curtis Martin was the last one, and he had no one else who was a big-time player. Other than Curtis Martin, you go back to...........what, Namath?? As good as the '80s team was at times, there was no big-time offensive guys. McNeil, Walker, Toon, O'Brien - they were all very good, but it's been a long time since the Jets were "loaded".
     
  20. WillyBeaman

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    Top 5 defense and top 5 running game. Not every QB has such luxuries (not to mention great return game). Giants and Packers both won SB with almost last ranked D and running game.

    Most fans of this team act as if it is a birthright to rush for 200yds a game. Not every QB is so lucky as 2009 Sanchez!

    No skill position superstars but very good at almost everything. Except for the most important position in Sports...
     

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