Looks like Gamble might be our guy.

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  1. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    LOL...who woulda thunk!
     
  2. PuMa

    PuMa Banned

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    Guess people are tired of hearing our name in the media and Tom Gamble wants to be our hero ?

    Actually...

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  3. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Yep, those tricky "facts" get them everytime. Shall we take a look at both QBs first 4 years statistics, specifically their CMP (Completion Percentage), YDS/GP (Yards per Game Played), AVG YDS/PASS (Average Yards per Pass), TD/GP (Touchdowns per Game Played), INT/GP (Interceptions per Game Played), FUM/GP (Fumbles per Game Played) and RAT (Passer Rating)?

    Alex Smith
    CMP% 54.55%
    YDS/GP 220
    AVG YDS/PASS 5.725
    TD/GP 1.15625
    INT/GP 1.34375
    FUM/GP 1.04348
    RAT 63.575

    Mark Sanchez
    CMP% 54.9%
    YDS/GP 257
    AVG YDS/PASS 5.725
    TD/GP 1.44681
    INT/GP 1.46809
    FUM/GP 0.81250
    RAT 71.7

    Except for the ever so slightly higher INT/GP by our own QB we love to hate, they do seem pretty similar, "factually" speaking that is. In fact, an objective observer of these stats could (dare I say it) declare Mark Sanchez the better QB after 4 years since he's better in everyone of those categories. But why let the "facts" get in the way your truth.
     
  4. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    Did Smith turn the ball over 50 times in two seasons? I highly doubt that
     
  5. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    No matter how he turns out (good or bad) he was still a reach in the first round based on what we know. They could have traded out of the first and he would have been there in 2nd and probably even 3rd or 4th.
     
  6. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    The only person mouth breathing is you my friend. I said Rex runs the show and is the teachers pet as in Woody got the best possible GM for Rex (i.e., someone with a 20 year relationship with the Ryan family and comes from a defense minded team). I didn't say or mean that Rex hand picked the GM while on vacation rubbing sun lotion on his creepy tattoo. The funny thing is that had Rex been given the opportunity, I don't think he could of done any better outside of hiring himself, Rob or Buddy. I don't see this guy as anxiously waiting to let Rex after a year like Holgrem and Mangina. And lastly, for the record, I love the pick. Woody did good. So save your fictitious argument for someone else who deserves it.
     
  7. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    No, but he did turnover the ball (INT & FUM) at a higher rate in his first 4 years than Sanchez, but who cares. It's just "facts" right?
     
  8. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    Alex Smith is Elite compared to Mark Sanchez
     
  9. wildthing202

    wildthing202 Active Member

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    Of course they look good when you add them up. Smith had a crap year 1 & 3 while having a decent 2 and a good 5(4 since he missed 2008). Sanchez has been about average all 4 years minus the TD/TO ratios.

    Smith showed progress in 2009 his 4th year while Sanchez has shown none.

    Since we don't have a time machine why not just show their last 4 years.

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    Mark Sanchez Passing Statistics for Career Games 2009 to 2012
    Games	Passing		Passing	
    Year	Tm	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	SkYds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD
    09-12	NYJ	62	62	33-29-0	1028	1867	55.1%	12092	68	3.6	69	3.7	74	6.5	5.5	11.8	195.0	71.7		126	818	5.66	4.78	6.3		
    
    Alex Smith Passing Statistics for Career Games 2009 to 2012
    Games	Passing		Passing	
    Year	Tm	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	SkYds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD
    09-12	SFO	48	45	27-17-1	855	1377	62.1%	9601	62	4.5	32	2.3	73	7.0	6.8	11.2	200.0	88.2		115	674	5.98	5.85	7.7		
    Smith is the better QB then and now.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitAl03.htm
    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SancMa00.htm
     
  10. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Alex Smith sucks. If Gamble brings him in the Jets won't be any better than with Tebow or Sanchez.. this franchise needs a better Quarterback and better leadership
     
  11. BleednGreen247

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    dirty also has 12 comeback wins :metal:
     
  12. Realistic Jets Fan

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    Alex Smith was the first pick and had one decent NFL season in a 7 or so year career as a draft bust.

    We already have a draft bust who was the fifth pick with two decent seasons out of four

    Both of them suck

    MOORE
     
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    Nor should he be.


    Hopefully Gamble is able to clean up Tannenblow's MESS (Turnover Machine, Tebow, etc) give Rex an OC who isn't a halfwit for a change and let a good football coach be a good football coach again.


    I think it will happen and Rex will get that extension he deserves during 2013 and lead the Jets as HC for a long time to come
     
  14. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    Smith is 19-5-1 his last 25 games, sign this beast
     
  15. Realistic Jets Fan

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    So good he got benched permanently


    Just say NO


    Intchez
    Tebow
    McElroy

    We have our full quota of crap. No need to make things even worse
     
  16. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    I'm wondering if Gamble was the first choice because of his connection to Rex?
    Not saying he's a bad choice or whatever, just wondering.

    Just read that Gamble also has a relationship with Bradway and that Bradway could be pushing for him to land the job.
    This doesn't make me too happy. I think the Bradway needs to be gone and a complete overhaul to the scouting department is a MUST!
     
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  17. BroadwayAaron

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    What about the facts from the last two seasons? You take numbers from Smiths worst years as a pro and expect me to give a shit? How about the last two years, where he's put up great numbers on a winning team, something Sanchez NEVER did.

    Those damn facts!
     
  18. ProfJets

    ProfJets Well-Known Member

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    Where are we going to find one before next season?
     
  19. Ben Had

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    You need to draft one or you will wind up like the fins since Marino retired...picking up others trash and hoping you get lucky.

    I still think Sancez is your started next year...you have too much invested in him not to.
     
  20. Realistic Jets Fan

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    Matt Moore...cost..no draft picks..reasonable cap cost with incentives..

    And better than Sanchez McElroy Teblow and Smith combined


    Problem solved...

    Next question?
     

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