Word on the street: potential candidates won't be considered unless they keep Rex

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  1. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Yes he would. He would then be a. A dictate for the HC job. Especially if he gets the offense to produce.
     
  2. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    No thank you. Norv has a proven track record of being an awful HC. Pass.
     
  3. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    I can't imagine a Rex Ryan team that has a producing offense that doesn't make the playoffs.
     
  4. Barcs

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    Rex deserves another shot and I'm not getting into the same argument in another Rex thread about the same stuff. He's an above average coach, anyone who can get SANCHEZ to a conference championship 2 years in a row should get a medal of honor.
     
  5. No Fly Zone

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    If you're a GM looking for a Job that could last you want success early on. Keeping Rex for a year offers stability from the Head Coach. You have a very good (not great) defense that you can get away with minor tweaks this year. Offense is your priority and if you draft well and spend wisely (despite the cap issues) this is a team that can return to the playoffs. The key of course is getting the right QB. There are guys out there that can manage for a year or two until the cap situation and draft class allows you to get the next franchise guy.

    Compare the Jets to the other situations.

    KC - you have a good D but not as good as the Jets. You have top WR and RB but nothing else and ownership with deep pockets and short arms. advantage Jets

    Carolina - Unique QB in Newton that you can build around a good pass catch TE that is part of the solution, Aged RB's that need replacing an ancient WR that needs replacing. D is good not spectacular. They lost 9 games but only 2 were blowouts. Slight edge Carolina (Franchise QB that's set and has cut down on INT's in 2nd year).

    San Diego - Established but questionably QB (2 consecutive bad years now), A RB that can't stay healthy a TE nearing the end who's production slipped this year, an awful O-line (only Rodgers was sacked more) unspectacular receiving core and a pretty good Defense but some of top players aging (Jammer). Offense is mirror image of Jets except key players are better when healthy, Defense not as good as Jets. Owner that hasn't looked to re-sign top players that become free agents - tough call, Tie (advantage SD if they can improve O-Line and Rivers comes back to form).

    Jacksonville - Who's your QB? Can MJD come back strong? Decent TE and young impressive WR core. O Line stinks (56 combined sacks on Henne and Gabbert), awful Defense. Advantage Jets.

    Of these teams the Jets may be viewed as the 3rd best option in terms of available talent to work with to project success (Carolina and SD ahead of them in no particular order) and when you consider that in SD you can pick your coach but you can't in Carolina (at this time) and the Carolina coach is worse than Rex the decision really looks to me like SD the clear #1 and then picking the best situation among the Jets and Panthers depending on what the owner says regarding current head coach. Carolina plays in a very tough division. Brady will retire some day (really he will) and knowing the end is closer for him plus given a weak AFC ultimate success (making the playoffs) may swing the tide in the Jets favor over Carolina despite them not having a franchise QB.

    I say the odds favor the Jets getting one of the top two GM candidates. Of course no one can predict how they view the circus that is the Jets but I'm hopeful they will get one of the top two guys.
     
  6. Rockinz

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    makes sense... RR is the jets
     
  7. TheCoolerGlennFoley

    TheCoolerGlennFoley Well-Known Member

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    Talent level of the team is only one part of the equation. Decision making power, salary, even where you want to live all play as big if not bigger role than the situation teams are set up in.
     
  8. No Fly Zone

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    It's probably the biggest factor. You need success to for staying power as a GM. KC is the prime example of lack of talent and a cheap coach that would keep a GM away.

    I'm a bit surprised that Andy wants this although I hear he is getting more power with KC than he had in Philly.
     
  9. Realistic Jets Fan

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    which street was this heard on?

    Francesa Street or Manish Street?

    In other words, Bullsh!t Street

    NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON BEHIND THOSE DOORS BUT RWJ4 AND Jed Hughes
     
  10. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    I'm a Rex Ryan fan and I think he should get this one year to turn it around. I mean his offense was horrible the whole time he was here. If he can have Brian Schottenheimer flushed down his throat he certainly can have one year. He is a defensive coach and that part of the Jets was steady. If he can finally get a Norvquist Turner or someone at least competent let see what happens it certainly can't be any worst than last year.
     
  11. TheCoolerGlennFoley

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    But when Kansas City got Pioli he was one of the rising stars and could've had his choice of spots around the league. But what he wanted was full control over the operation, something he'd never have in New England. I'm willing to bet an aspiring GM would take a spot with less talent but more guarantees it would be him calling the final shots.
     
  12. Realistic Jets Fan

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    agree

    Rex is a good HC and should stay

    a real GM, and three new coordinators that the real GM signs off on

    plus flushing Tebow out of here as quickly as possible


    the plan
     
  13. TheCoolerGlennFoley

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    The problem is what three qualified coordinators are going to come to a team where the coach is guaranteed only one year? You're not getting the Norv Turner's of the world, you're getting Hugh Jackson or Cam Cameron or guys that would be thrilled just to have the OC/DC spot.
     
  14. rmagedon

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    Everybody is going crazy for no good reason. A new GM retaining Rex for 1 year isn't going to hurt the GM or change the way Woody views him. It's Woody's call a to why Rex is still with the team in the first place. There doesn't seem to be an issue either about candidates coming in for the interview and possibly retaining Rex for another year. Maybe...MAYBE (we're not even sure if this stipulation is for real) a Great GM is interested and let's Woody knows how he feels ant retaining Rex. Woody can change his mind if he thinks this GM is a perfect fit. Nothing is written in fuckin stone ppl.

    The real issue will become if Rex has a 9-7/10-6 season and barely makes the Playoffs and is 1-and-done. Then what do u do if you're the GM at that point?? Do u retain Rex? Or bring in the guy you wanted from the get-go?
     
  15. LAJet

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    Well said. I agree 100%.
     
  16. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    See Above.

    I'm just saying that here is a reason Norv would come here
     
  17. Organized Chaos

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    That is a fair point, we are interviewing some quality guys.
     
  18. Viffer98

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    I completely disagree. The new GM will hire the coordinators, not Rex. And they will get whatever guarantees the GM wants to give them. I don't think keeping Rex will dissuade any candidate.
     
  19. Viffer98

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    Why does everyone assume the new GM wouldn't WANT Rex? Tell me what other better HC choices are out there? Yes, there may be up and coming coordinators and college coaches that will get HC jobs, but look at the statistics for success with a coach with no HC experience. More fail than make it. So I suspect that any of the GM candidates, with the guarantee from Woody that after 2013 it will be up to the GM to keep or fire Rex, will be ok with keeping Rex next year.
     
  20. TheCoolerGlennFoley

    TheCoolerGlennFoley Well-Known Member

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    If people are worried about a qualified GM candidate not wanting to coach the Jets because of a head coach is being forced on him for at least one year, that increases 10 fold with a potential new coach having coordinators forced on him.
     

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