I was thinking about Rex and Bellichick today on my way home. Bellichick has 2 SB appearances since winning in 2004. He had Brady all this time except 1 season. Yes he won the division constantly but still didn't win it all for the last 8 years with one of the best QB's that has ever played the game. Rex has 2 AFCCG with Mark Sanchez. His offenses sucked but his defenses has always been awesome. What would happen if Rex had the luxury of Tom Brady. How would Jets benefit from Brady and Rex in the same team. Let's discuss shall we? Note: If somehow I can lure Br4dw4y5ux and nyjunc to this thread, I am sure we will be able to read excellent posts
What's really astonishing is how horrible the Patriots defense has been. Belichicken is not an offensive guru and he doesn't get involved much on that side of the ball. So if the defense is crap...what the hell has he been doing? Just standing and watching his golden goose?
You have to commend the Pats for winning the division as many times as they have in a league full of parity, but it's somewhat sad they've had such a porous defense for so long. You'd think if it was even league average they'd prob have an additional SB win or more.
It's happened before though. Brian Billick lead the Vikings to the highest scoring season in NFL history. When he was in Baltimore his offenses were never really that good. I know it's different personnel but it has happened before. Rex with any elite QB would be a SB contender every year. That's why it stings to see what Peyton is doing, what could've been.
Its not really personal to BB, as I have said many times - coaches get way too much credit for succeeding when they have a top tier QB to fall back on and way too much blame when they fail without one. IMO a top QB has way, way, way more impact on your team than a top coach. I would much rather have an elite QB and an average coach than an elite coach and average QB. Give RR a good (not great) QB and he likely would've won a SB the last 4 years.
You're comparing Rex with one of the best coaches the league has ever seen? You realize when you have a Brady you have to pay him accordingly and with what ever money is left over pay the rest of the team. The genius of BB is all the unknown players he develops into stars. How many years has he won the division and competed for a SB? Are you really being serious trying to compare the two? Have you been watching the past two season? Rex has been revealed to be a complete sham of a HC. Rex is eveything BB isn't all talk and bluster.
If Rex had Brady those two AFC Champ seasons with his defense Rex would have two rings on his finger.
Let's conveniently NOT count the SB winning seasons BB had when comparing the two coaches. Rex isn't even in the same universe as BB as a coach. Not only has Rex never won a SB as a HC, he's never won one as a DC! BB won two more as a DC. Belichick won his first SB in NE with a young QB who was just asked to manage the offense, and a bunch of veteran journeymen playing roles. One of the greatest coaching seasons ever!
He had success with the Giants as a DC - but who wouldn't have had success with the Giants in the late 80s? That team was absolutely loaded, especially on the defensive side - Lawrence Taylor, Harry Carson, etc.
Bellicheck won 11 games with Matt fucking Cassel, arguably the worst starting QB in the NFL of the past decade, he has many rings and absolutely nothing to prove, Rex has everything to prove.
Bellicheck could just as easily had 4 super bowls if it weren't for any amazing David Tyree catch, a Wes Welker dropped 3rd down conversion and another amazing Mario Manningham catch.
OK, he was just lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time I guess. It was just luck that HIS gameplan against the Bills in the SB is in the Hall of Fame. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXV The defensive game plan for the Giants, written by defensive coordinator Bill Belichick, has been included in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. On defense, New York wanted to be physical with Buffalo's wideouts, and play with extra defensive backs to concentrate on stopping the Bills passing game, while shifting focus away from trying to stop Buffalo's running game. In his book "The Education of a Coach", David Halberstam writes that one of Bill Belichick's specific plans to combat the Bills involved convincing his defense (who had been the best unit against the run in the NFL that season) that they would win the game if Thurman Thomas ran for more than 100 yards. Belichick also felt that Jim Kelly was not as good at reading defenses as some other elite QBs, like Joe Montana, were, and that Kelly tended to "freeze" what he was seeing from a series and then use that information on the next one, which meant the Giants could be a step ahead of him all game if they alternated their cover plans from drive to drive.
Or he could have had none but for the stupid tuck rule in 2002, if John Fox didn't go for two points too early twice and failed and if Kasay doesn't kick off out of bounds after Carolina tied the game with a minute left in 2004, and if Andy Reid and the Eagles could manage the clock at the end of the game rather than taking 4 minutes to cut the score to 24-21.
would you chalk it up to luck that since 2001 they won the division 10 times and the other 2 times finished in 2nd? To go all the way you need a little luck. Jets got pretty lucky just to make it into the playoffs let alone win a SB.
Mark Sanchez says hello. Rex was the HC when we had two impressive road play-off wins, beyond that his defensive game plans have not been great. We have only beaten a handful of good teams in the last four years.
Lol, no. That is a dumb comparison. Sanchez's 2009 salary was 2.5mi and Brady's 2009 salary was 8mil. If you replace Sanchez in the 2009 team with Brady we wouldn't have the exact team that went to the AFCCG. Your down 5.5 mil to other players and your losing guys like Braylon Edwards, or Shawn Green+Thomas Jones who only combined for 2mil in salary. You can't just automatically replace a QB and keep everything else the same and say we would've won the SB. Your not think this through.
some of these posters here remind me of the people who call into sports radio shows with their unique ideas. There's a recurring hope of many Jets fan that if only we could buy this star then we'd win a super bowl or their distorted notions on Rex. Football more than any other sport is a team sport. You can't bring in a few stars like the Heat did in basketball and win it all. Look at all the talent on the Lions and they ended up going 4-12. Btw, Stafford is no bum either. Goes to prove you can still fail with all the talent in the world if you don't know how to build and coach a TEAM.
