it's amazing how we have more info than ever before yet the majority of fans still cannot think for themselves and need to be told what to think. Sparano is not staying.
It seems that once again we have a lack of information about a central point covered on this thread. It is in fact nothing more than speculation whether Woody is going to insist the new GM work at least one year with Rex, or will allow an otherwise acceptable choice for the GM role to fire Rex this off season. If it's the latter, that makes sense. If the former, that doesn't make any sense, and would be another in the too long line of football decisions Woody made that he has no business making.
Because far too many quote junc here, I unfortunately see too many references to his take on things. It should be clear, however, that junc got this season completely wrong. He is a Jet front office homer in a year when the FO screwed the team over. And us fans, too, who have every right to be pissed at the organization. The notion that this owner, this organization, is better qualified to chart the way forward than the fans, and is above criticism, is laughable at this point.
The Tanny thing is debatable. One of the reasons we were this bad this year was lack of talent and lack of depth. We also invested in 3 different QBs, keeping 2 of them, and the 2 we kept both are/played bad. We used money and cap space to extend one and draft picks to acquire another. We cut 3 of our draft picks already I believe and like usual, had a lack of high draft picks. We haven't invested in the OL since Vlad and are a step slow addressing the LB situtation. We were a year late addressing the WR position and a year late addressing the S position which we effectively corrected in FA. It looks like we missed on getting a playmaking RB as Greene and Powell are grinders and McKnight who can be one, has trouble hanging onto the ball. It took us until Week 4 in the preseason to address our RT tackle situation and Week 15 to address our WR problem. The way Tanny was able to surround this team with talent in his middle years, will not work when rebuilding the team. The opposite must be done which is not trading draft picks for veterans, not signing FA to big money, and not trading up. We actually need to keep draft picks and maybe ship some players picks, trade down if possible and stockpile some picks, and be cheap or inactive in FA. I appreciate what he did, but his philosophy doesn't seem to match what is needed to fix this Jets team. So, correct me if I am reading this wrong, but basically with the GM and HC not tied together, if one has to leave the owner and the remaining person still have their plans set. So instead of there being the owner looking for a HC and GM, you can cycle through HCs and GMs while keeping part either the FO or CS intact? To be honest, that sounds like a perfect way to run a franchise and if Woody is heading that direction, I am all for it. I already like our interview candidates for GM and if we land one of them, it will be a great find for the Jets organization.
LOL. Are you looking in the mirror? I broke all of your points down in that other topic about Rex point by point. It was YOU that refused to respond to any of my counter points and instead just repeated your original argument. Where I come from, that's called a fallacy and is no way to make a logical argument. Rex's #1 job is to get wins, and he's done that with the #12 career win % in the NFL today(amongst active head coaches). I'm not saying Rex is a Bill Belachick, but he's an above average, in fact he's nearly a top 10 coach in the league based on wins, and no doubt if you included playoff wins, he'd be in the top 10. When you are rebuilding a team, those are the type people you keep. Most people here honestly think that Keller, Holmes and Rex are the worst people on our team and want them gone, but the fact of the matter is that they will all be back, barring the apocalypse. There will be no trading package for Holmes. Quote me on this. We'll have all 3 come training camp this year, regardless of this fan base bitching and whining about emotional drama that has nothing to do with football.
But I'm a Jets fan. I'm supposed to support and follow my team. Most "fans" on here don't even know what a fan is supposed to be because the team hasn't been good historically.
He did a poor job assmebling the team this year, should be bashed for it but 1 bad year shouldn't cost him his job. as far as depth goes, we lost the best defnesive player in the game and rebounded well on D, on 3 of our top weapons in the pass game missed most of the season. It's hard to have depth to overcome that. We addressed the WR situation in the draft w/ a 2nd rd pick. we need to draft OL again and LB
I agree with you on this. One reason it might be a good idea to keep our coaching staff on contract until we get a new GM is because of all the coaches that have been fired. It may well be in a game of musical chairs a new GM might want to keep Rex or some other members on the staff because other teams may be quicker to the replace their staff and leave us with few choices. If that's the case this is a very sensible move. If it's simply man love for Rex pretty scary.
The total best solution would be demote RR to DC & bring in a true HC instead of keeping RR as HC & getting a de facto HC OC :sad:
The best coach ever to walk the sidelines for the NYJets wrote a check with his mouth that his team couldn't cash. Maybe he shouldn't have run his mouth so much. The Best Coach in the history of the New York Jets doesn't know a damn thing about offense but then again, offense isn't important in his view as long as the defense plays well. The coach that led this team to historical losses in consecutive AFCCG's and hysterical losses this season should be given at least as much time as Andy Reid... to entrench the dysfunctionality of the franchise. Thank God that's not gonna happen. The circus is leaving town Junc. Finally...
He has had 2-3 below average years now. In 2011 offseason it looks like we made a mistake giving all that money to Holmes. We didn't address RT, got Plax and Mason (both downgrades from the year before), and didn't address the S or LB position. When Turner our 6th OL went down for the year, we didn't address that need either. The WR, S, OL depth were all major problems that year. Then this past offseason was another bad one, ranging on terrible to be honest. It crippled our team and yet another year went by without addressing the OL or LB core even though they were both problems the year before. Like I said we missed on the QB, late addressing OL, LB, S problems. Missed on RBs also. The only hits you can credit Tanny for are CB depth and DL picks. Besides that, we have 0 playmakers on offense and our best 2 offensive players on the OL but the OL as a whole struggled because of the lack of production from the other 3 OL spots. On top of this, Tanny is supposed to be a cap expert, but we are in cap trouble because of him. We are going to have a lot of holes to fill this offseason with not that much cap room. To create cap room, we have to create holes. Again, going forward, Tanny's strategy just doesn't match the rebuilding type of strategy. He's better as a reloader/build on the fly. He can take a solid team and swing trades to make it a great team. The Jets aren't at that at this point of the year, and when you miss on a QB, its tough to bounce back. If a team is a few moves away, he has shown the ability to get quality players and manage the cap to create room for quality FA. However trading picks/signing FA to big money works when you already have a solid team in place, something the Jets do not have. The Jets not have to keep as much cap room as possible and keep their draft picks and gather more. Again, this is the opposite of Tanny's strength, so after a couple down years, it makes sense to let him go and find someone who can better use those draft picks in the draft and knows how to rebuild a team.
was Rex talking big this year? and rex ahs gotten us closer than any coach since Weeb. The circus is the fanbase, I wish we could start over and bring in some knowledgeable fans. You guys deserve the Rich Kotite types, Bruce Coslet, Al Groh,...
And HOMERS like you deserve the 45+ years w/o a SB. Junc, you would have made a great Chicago Cubs fan. You are change adverse. You'd rather stay mediocre and get close every 10 years. If the NFL gave out trophies for effort, every team would be a champ. To give Rex Ryan more than one last season to get this right would simply cement the view of the Jets as a franchise that is what it is. Just a organization that can't get out of its own way. If people say your team is dysfunctional, and most all of them are professionals who are far more involved in the sport than any of us, chances are your team is dysfunctional. Please don't change Junc for Woody's sake. He needs guys like you to believe the house isn't burning even though there are firetrucks outside.
The circus is who before the season began said that this is his GREATEST NYJ team EVER. H'mm can U guess who the person is that that quote belongs to? :sad:
Hey lets take up a fund for him so he has the money to be deprogrammed by a MD of his homerism. :sad:
Sorry...being supported of the front office & desiring stability is no more irrational than those of you who want complete turnover at the first sign of disappointment. The reality is the truth is somewhere in the middle.
