Tannenbaum will not return to the Jets in 2013

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  1. Biggs

    Biggs Well-Known Member

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    Depends on what the GM has in mind. The NFL guys who are available now are Reid and Smith and Whisenhunt right now. Reid and Whisenhunt both took teams to the SB. Whisenhunt in the right situation would bring a certain level of dignity back to the organization. I think he has the making of a great head coach with a good organization. My prefrence is Saban but he would need complete control.
     
  2. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    U R not serious with this are U? Woody can only ID how much money he can make has zero interest of how the product performs & he has no skills to determine whose is good & who is not. In this regard see Herm & Mangini & RR to name 3 + Tanny :sad:
     
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    Brian Costello ‏@BrianCoz
    Mike Tannenbaum released a statement. Part of it: "There are champions on this team that haven’t been crowned yet."
     
  4. cgrec

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    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
    Jets and Jaguars have asked permission from San Francisco to interview 49ers director of player personnel Tom Gamble for their GM jobs.
     
  5. displacedfan

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    I think the GM job is easier because the defense is set. Yes Rex needs to focus more on offense, but from a GM perspective, the defense is set with Rex. If Rex is gone, the defense needs a ton of work along with the offense. I think we all agree Rex has the defense doing fine so that's why the GM might keep him, so he can focus on offense this offseason.

    I gave Sanchez credit when he played well the first two years. He has regressed mightily, 10000x more than Rex. Part of that regression falls on the GM who well is gone and Schotty who is also gone. Also, our offense was a problem even when we were winning. I think under Rex we would all agree the 2nd year was our best year? We have losses that year scoring 9,3,0, and 6 points. 3/4 losses came with the other offense putting up less than 15 points. We only lost two games when we put up double digit points that year, PITT and CHI, @ both. So the offense was still a problem.

    Also in our best year, Rex did a much better job at HC than Schotty at OC and Sanchez at QB. We had Revis holdout, revis injury, Braylon DUI, the female reporter, 45-3, and then we went to IND and NE and our defense fooled Brady and Peyton, a Peyton Manning Rex's defense had never beaten before. While yes Sanchez played well in both games, the defense stopped two of the best QBS of the last 10 years.

    Sanchez was much more terrible at his job than Rex. This was our offensive talent: Sanchez, Greene, Powell, Hill, Kerley, Reuland, Gates, Schillens, Braylon, Reuland, Smith, Hilliard. I don't think one person of that list could be a starter on more than 5 teams in the league. Yet we went 6-10 mainly because Rex's forte, the defense, stepped up big. They weren't elite, but they played great. The games we won, were due to the G&P philsophy which we used to hide our lack of a QB in general. Without Rex, that defense suffers, and we go 3-13 most likely.

    Like I said, if a GM wants to go a different way than Rex, I'm fine with that. But I think Rex can be helpful in bringing a GM in because the defense is mostly set with Rex. THey are going to be a top 10 defense. The GM can focus on shoring up the offense. Now if the GM wants a fresh start, we can always fire Rex next week or whenever, but we can't rehire Rex if the GM wants a great defense.
     
  6. blackssmagic

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    Now we are freakin talking
     
  7. displacedfan

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    That's awesome.
     
  8. JetsUK

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    A good start - did you see how many Niners were pro bowlers or pro bowl reserves this year? It was about half the NFC team.
     
  9. NYCKNP

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    I'm really happy with this move
     
  10. major33

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    The reason why we had shit this season is because Rex and Tanny shot their load during the first two seasons. They spent all our cash for the short term without focusing on the long term. I'm sure lots of coaches would do well if they came in with solid foundation of young talent, then had their GM spend a small fortune to supplement the already existing good young talent. Now we're paying the piper for those short term decisions.

    I forgot where I heard it but the other day someone in the media was talking about how Belichick is always planning for the future. They were talking about the Wes Welker contract situation and how they're already grooming his replacement. Then they brought up the Jets and how we have to go out and spend big money to bring in talent because we aren't preparing for the eventual departure of players. I just thought this was interesting and very telling about how the two franchises build their teams.
     
  11. TheJetChase

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    If we had a decent OC you all would be bowing at Rex Ryan's feet right now. The offensive staff is terrible and one coach can't coach every single player on the offensive side of the ball, he's got two sides of the ball to worry about. We've had two weak OC's and a weak quarterback and we've had one losing season in the past four years. The guy knows how to coach and his record with this mediocre team proves that to me.

    Tannenbaum being gone is a good thing. I think a new GM will be fine taking a job with Rex Ryan as the head coach. It's not like he's walking into a team with Chan Gailey as his head coach. I hope we hire from outside the Jets organization and think we will. Hopefully we hire the right person.
     
  12. Wahoo

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    You say we have had one losing season in the last 4 years. You can also say we have had back to back non-winning seasons for the first time since Kotite. So lets not get Ryan's hall of fame plaque ready just yet.
     
  13. displacedfan

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    Again, everything you are listing seems to be GM related here. Also, having Tom effing Brady makes reloading so much easier. You wanna know why the Pats have gotten by with Bill missing on DBs draft after draft? Because Brady puts up 28 points a game and the DBs play with a lead. He hasn't found a DB in so long and has dropped off many of his draft picks. His prize pcik McCoruty had to move to S because CB play was that bad.

    I agree, the Jets seemed to behind the ball on fixing the OL problems, the WR problems. They seemed to be a year slow fixing LB and S also and only were a step ahead on the Revis holdout and the DL. Again, my understanding of NFL management structure, the problems you pick fall more on Tanny than Rex. Bill is an exception as he is one of the few if not only coach/gm. Most other organizations run where the GM's role is what you are descriving while the coach has insight on how to approach it.
     
  14. Hobbes3259

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    This was a mistake, in response to the media.
     
  15. TheJetChase

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    I never said he had an HOF plaque waiting for him. I'm saying people are stupid for calling for the head of a guy who has had one losing season as a head coach and that was with an offense that Bill Walsh couldn't have salvaged.
     
  16. major33

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    Rex Ryan has major say in every single personnel decision. We're talking Mike Tannenbaum as his GM, not Jerry Reese or Bill Polian. I don't know why you keep chirping about them being separate.
     
  17. cgrec

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    They had I think 6 pro bowlers on the defensive side alone
     
  18. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    What's your suggestion for QB??? Expect Sanchez to be on the roster, but not start. The Jets take a $17 million cap hit if they cut him and do you really expect the Jets to be able to trade him?

    Who should be the Jets QB next year and in the future? I'd like to hear how you propose the Jets fix the QB mess so the Jets do not struggle again next year?

    And what should Ryan have done differently this year? Who should have played QB? Kerley? All three QBs were garbage. I would have played the guy who showed promise in the past and has the team in a financial knot rather than the guy who is not an NFL QB and should never have been here but for the owner or the kid with no arm.
     
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    This is what I have thought after Rex took over...many of you called it reloading!
     

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