Well Sanchez was Rex's QB. Has been from the start and the two are tied at the hip. He, along with the entire organization mishandled Sanchez and for that, a good deal of blame falls on Rex. Between not enough attention put on the offense in the drafts and FA and this team struggling to find its identity, there's plenty of reasons to why Rex should be on the hot seat. He's the HC of this team... He's the coach of the entire team. I feel like he's treating his job more like a DC than a HC and thats a problem. If the Jets decide to keep Rex, I pray he learns from his mistakes and shifts focus towards the offense completely.
See, I feel like Rex has spent the better part of the last 4 years playing wet nurse to Sanchez and making terrible personnel decisions in conjunction with Tannenbaum. I'd say fire all three of them, but I've officially stopped caring anymore what this organization does. I'm tired of the circus. I'd like to see some effort made at winning.
I hate heating thus because it is not true at all. You can't be a great defensive mind without knowing how an NFL offense runs. He just preaches an outdated offensive philosophy that works even worse when you dont have the personnel or the coaching staff to run it.
I could swear he admitted that he blew it last year and learned his lesson - was supposed to be more involved this season. If that was what happens when he's more involved, I shudder to think what it will be like if he ever acts like a real head coach. We might run out high school kids and score 0 points.
You sound like the guy (forget his name) who was calling us 7-7 before the Tennessee game. How can you count ANY game as an automatic win for this team after the last month of football? 7-9 is only almost .500 because it's only two games under. But this isn't baseball at 80-82. 7-9 is a winning percentage of .438. In baseball, that's a 70-92 record. Or 71-91 if you want to round off. In basketball it's 36-46. It's just not very good. Following the pattern they've set all year of beating teams only with rookie QBs or terrible QBs, they're more likely to be 6-10 than 7-9 anyway. In which case you'd be looking at a 100-loss season in baseball.
Rex is a mixed bag at HC. He builds good defenses but then they turn out to have holes against great offenses. He is an innovative defensive schemer who can make even great QB's look average on a given day but rolls over to a strong balanced offense with regularity. He uses players for the fringe skills that they add to the defense but often gets caught with a fringe player on the field in the wrong situation. That's the defensive side. There is no offensive side to talk about because the only effective thing that Rex has done on that side of the ball in 4 years as head coach was to shut down a malfunctioning offense by imposing the most conservative possible profile on it. I think the Jets risk a lot in letting Rex go after this season. They will not get very good results out of the defense with the current players and anybody else running the show. They cannot afford to rebuild the defense to anybody else's specifications given the work that must go into the offense. It's fairly likely if the Jets let Rex go that the defense falls to middle of the pack or worse next season. On the other hand Rex still hasn't demonstrated any grasp of what needs to be done on the offensive side of the ball. So the Jets need to get that going for him to fulfill his potential as a head coach.
Sanchez was bad this year, but there's no need to call someone a clown because they think he's better than McElroy and Tebow. He definitely has the most upside of the three.
It's really rare for somebody to have the kind of horrific run that Sanchez has had from last December to this and then pull it out with the same team. Given Sanchez results over the 4 years he has been in the NFL it is probably somewhat unlikely that he goes anywhere else and performs at a high level. He's a potential reclamation project for some team looking for a game manager for a few years but I doubt he gets that opportunity right away. I think he's going to ride the bench for a year or two and then either out of the NFL or resurrected as a game manager for some team with a lot of talent and a tight system.
Rex has certainly had his bad moments this year, and I'll throw up if I ever hear him say that Sanchez gives the Jets the best chance to win, but I'd like to see him back as coach next year. Fire GM, OC, QBC, OLC, get in some respectable, experienced people, and let's see what can happen over the next couple of years. Based on what? In his first 1.5 starts, after being inactive most of the year, Mcelroy is higher rated and has better metrics then Sanchez in every way. Objective reality based on performance says that anyone who thinks Mark Sanchez has a future as a QB is absolutely retarded. Mcelroy is a never was because he only has 1.5 starts. To suggest that if Mcelory started every game for four years that he would be as much an embarrassment as Sanchez is absurd. Sanchez has proven himself to be utter dog shit, the book is still out on Mcelroy - it's foolish to make an assessment after 1.5 starts.
Will coach his 64th regular season game on Sunday - 2 have been meaningless. Team has fought back from tough starts, battled, performed in the playoffs....not sure what else people want from a coach.
It's mentioned multiple times in this thread but fundamentally, Rex has not grown on the offensive side of the ball. Look at the great co-ordinators who have become SB coaches recently - Belichick, Dungy, Billick, Tomlin. Hoodie & Dungy were defensive masterminds who spearheaded offensive teams to the SB, Billick was the offensive wizard who won a SB with the best defense in 25 years. They all developed the "weaker" side of their game until it was at a high level. Even second-tier coaches like Marvin Lewis -- no success until he developed his offensive game (and team), although how much success he will have remains to be seen. DC-->HC move requires the coach to keep doing what he does well, but also get (a lot) better on the other side of the ball. And let me short-circuit the "get XXX as OC" talk. Delegating it doesn't work. The HC needs to know it all -- offense, defense, ST. You only delegate the work, not the knowledge, planning, strategy and tactics.
In the NFL you are your results. It's a tough competition. Rex was 20-12 and 4-2 in the playoffs his first two years. He's 14-17 the last two. You can give him credit for taking a loaded but flawed team to two AFC championship games but you also have to acknowledge the formless lump that he's coached the last two seasons.
This team has gotten worse every year Rex has been here. He lost control of this team last year and never got it back. He, like his dad is a great DC but not a good HC. Few GMs would want him as thier coach, he is out of control and can't keep control of his team.
Rex Ryan is not a great coach...I can't be more clear than that. He's a likeable guy who has a decent defensive acumen ...but he's way over his head as head coach.
Next year is a throw away year due to the Cap, and so on. Give him and Tanny another year, and don't let Tanny sign anyone long term. Let Mark compete for the starting job. If we see improvement Rex stays, if not blow it up then and start the rebuild process. I think the only guy leaving is Sprano, as the fall guy. This deal is going to take time.
Rex is one of the best coaches in the sport, Rex is the best thing to happen to this franchise in my lifetime. The biggest mistake we could make would be cleaning house.
