Some major flaws off the top of my head that should be more than enough to give reason to firing Tanny- - The contracts- Harris is getting paid like he's Patrick Willis. He's good, but not great and not a gamechanger. He doesnt deserve that much. Scott's contract, Pace's contract, Holmes' contract are all garbage. He gave a #2 WR the most guaranteed money a WR has ever seen. He guaranteed the back ends of Scott's and Pace's contracts to make room for the great Nnamdi... If it wasnt for the retarded Rams, we would be paying 4 million to Wayne Hunter. Last but certainly not least, the Sanchez contract that has crippled us. - Poor drafting- Sanchez, Greene, Keller, Gholston, Kyle Wilson, Vlad, and the endless mid-late draft picks that arent on this team. Aside from Wilkerson and Kerley (excluding this year), the recent drafts havent lived p to what we have hoped. - Horrible depth/drop off in talent- Tanny has given away two players for one, or two drafts picks for one, or a draft pick for a rental player countless times. It has certainly screwed our depth which is why the injury to Holmes (who isnt even that good) hurt us so badly. He's traded up in the draft numerous times, blowing multiple picks at a time and causing us to have BY FAR the least amount of players drafted since he's been here. During the offseason he let out horrible OL depth, WR depth and RB depth go completely untouched. - Inability to develop a franchise QB- As Trent Dilfer has said 'if you want to right a book about how not to develop a young QB, you can just title it "Jets"'. This is sadly true. Sanchez did show a lot of promise his first two years and Tanny let the offensive talent around Sanchez drop off completely before his eyes. Whether it be a revolving door at receiver, drop off of offensive linemen or change in the RB's, Sanchez never saw consistency around him and the talent declined. - No clear plan- How many times have we seen Tanny just try and make a huge splash move, a big signing, or a huge trade? I dont anyone can say that this team has a clear plan on where they want to be and especially how they are going to get there. You see teams like the 49ers and the Packers and even the Seahawks now and you can just tell they have a plan as a front office and are executing it well. This team has struggled to find its identity and has no clear plan. - He simply isnt a "football guy"- He is a cap guy. He doesnt have a great knowledge of football and this is one of my biggest pet-peeves. Even though he is considered a cap guy, he still manages to mess up huge contracts. - Tebow- I do think Woody had a lot to do with this, but as a GM, you are going to take a lot of the fall on this one.
And that's why I want Tanny gone. Trading draft picks for other teams disgruntled players, and going for the home run free agent signings just isn't a winning formula. A good draft can turn your team around in a season. You can have a quick fix with potential for long term contending if you draft well
It would certainly be nice to find a GM that would like to work with Rex, but by no means should this be a huge part in the decision making process. If there's a great candidate that has a ton of football experience, knows how to build a contender, has a clear plan on the path of the franchise and knows how to develop a QB, you get him. If he wants Rex, sure thats great, but if not, it shouldnt stop you from hiring that GM.
You are watching a different team than I am then. Greene has a long of 36 yards this season and Powell has a long of 17. Those arent big plays. Stephen Hill looked lost in his reps. He's an athlete wearing pads. Even if he ever turns into a contributor, its years away. You cant spend picks on players like that early when you have so many obvious holes.
Any argument for keeping someone for the sake of continuity shows a complete lack of vision for the overall situation. Continuity is good when you have the right system in place. This regime has shown it has no vision for the future, for building a culture of success. Continuity would have been good if the organization had realized it drafted a rookie QB with the 5th pick, who played one full season as a starter in college, and surrounded him with the tools to grow into his role as a leader on this team. Instead the organization took pieces away from him year after year replacing them with lesser talent and worse personalities in the locker room. This regime tore this team apart, left it void of any true veteran leadership and quality talent. A team is not just 53 guys in uniform. A team should be assembled with character, talent, similar vision for the future, and communality of goals. This roster is a joke. I don't care who is the QB, you'll never win with this "b movie" second tier roster of misfits. I say get a GM in here with a proven philosophy of winning and let him clean house and change the whole culture of this team/organization. It's not going to happen overnight but the circus has to leave town.
There are a couple decent points here...but your sig kills your credibility. blow it up? Revis,Cro,Wilson,Landry,Bell....the best defensive backfield in the NFL... Wilkerson,Coples...the LB corp has been solid, and Harris is special. Patrick Willis? Compare their rookie years, Hardis wasn't on the field but outplayed him when he was... Now, building an organization is a process....and all the pieces are in place...today...with a draft in hand. All that's missing, is a real OC. Sanchez is a player...there are teams playing garbage at QB, but can generate offense... FCOL...Matt Moore? That's where the media is..AYFKM???? I keep saying on every thread, the names the media don't say.l.because it doesn't sell papers or get listeners,l, are Gilyard...Gates...Rheuland...lSparano.l. Because no one knows them...yell SANCHEZ...and heads turn..l Sanchez,Edwards,Holmes,Kerley,Keller,Cumberland. With a scheme...is a top 10 offense.
Sanchez is a bottom 5 starting QB in this league. Holmes is maybe a top 40 WR. Kerley is maybe a top 10 slot WR. Keller is trash, and I'm sick of seeing him on this team. Cumberland has potential, but it's mostly unrealized. To call that offense a top 10 offense if it has a scheme is laughable at best. It most certainly is a bad joke.
idk why people bring up the injuries as a reason to keep tanny. the steelers have been absolutely destroyed, DESTROYED by injuries and they haven't made a mockery of themselves and still stay competitive against good teams in the nfl. they have that "next in line" mentality, which we don't because we have no fucking depth and just hire people off the street. thats on tanny
this organization suffers from too much success too quick. remember a few years ago when people thought tanny could do no wrong and rex could coach up anyone. it didnt matter that we lost some guys that were solid, rex will coach up the next group and we will roll on. well i think they got a little too comfortable with that and the splashy acquisitions. the we need 1 more player to win the superbowl type of moves. when you do that it hurts you for years to come. and right now it hurts and its time to find a better plan. and if its woody that orchestrated all of this, which wouldnt surprise me i hope to hell that he realizes he is an idiot and brings someone in to run the organization.
Mangini liked the high character guys. Holmes and Edwards were available for cheap because they are giant pains in the ass. Cromartie was acquired for a 2nd.
Yep. I see a general lack of education about the game of football & the "fire fire fire" mentality that has held this organization back for DECADES. It's not enjoyable anymore. Players are busts after one day of training camp, good organizational decisions ignored after the first sign of adversity. It's ok to have an opinion. But when it is so short sighted & leads to the owner pulling the trigger & cleaning house every 3-4 years...you begin to see a trend. The sad thing is..the owner makes these moves b/c the fans cry for it..and then bozo's have the nerve to claim the owner doesn't care about the fans & it's all about money. Bitch.Moan.Complain. This guy's a bust.That guy's a bust. We better re-sign this guy(then 5 years later) I can't believe we gave him that contract.Bitch.moan.complain
Any organization that freaks out and fires everybody after one bad season will perpetually suck no matter who the latest GM or HC is. If you want to look for excuses to find fault with an individual in order to fire them you will be able to do so as the Jets have done for the past 14 seasons - the results of the philosophy you advocate has been chaos and failure - except for Rex & Mr.T - who now you want to fire b/c they had 1 losing season. That is the definition of insanity. Firing people every 3-4 years is a terrible strategy and the Jets are exhibit 1A which shows you just how dumb it is to switch out the HC and/or GM every few seasons - as soon as the team has 1 losing season - fire everybody - absolutely idiotic approach for any organization. You wind up in a constant tearing down and recycling process in which everybody in your organization is simply looking out for their own self interest and will sacrifice long term stability and success for hope of a quick fix. It is precisely this short term philosophy that needs to change w/NYJ, otherwise the team will continue to suck and most likely will never even get back to the AFCCG - much less the SB. Have some faith, show some loyalty, develop a plan to overcome the challenges and execute that plan - that is the right way to go - hard work but achievable. Blowing it up is the easy move and stupid move.
