His defense is perennially much better than we've ever had, he's brought us to two AFCCG's, The players love him. Although today I believe they quit on him which is concerning.
He is involved but he shouldbt the final yes/no to it. He is supposed to say what he wants, what he and GM want the team to be, and the GM/scouting department are suppposed to gout out and get them.
^the players quit on him last year too, as I recall. And the defense has been ok, but the offense has sucked. No one is giving a good reason to keep him. Comeon, let's have some specifics.
The first question is can we get a better coach, the second question is who was the last NYJ coach that was better than RR, third question is do we want the NYJ defense to decline just because the team wants to gamble and make a change.
As they just said on SNY, Rex has been neutered! His bravado is gone, and rightly so. His rah-rah BS doesn't work anymore. He should be fired, just like Tanny, Sparano, etc. Clean the house!
They didn't quit on Rex, only Tone if anyone did. The team was still booking it in MIA going down the field and scoring late and making stops. I am being specific. If a new GM wants Rex to leave, I'm all for it. BUT if one person is going, the majority of the problems is the lack of talent on the team. Our problems are lack of talent. If Rex leaves, this defense is going to drop from above average to below average. The offense is getting a rehaul this season with or without Rex, but our defensive play will drop off greatly. Rex also has the players playing for him. There is a difference between quitting (Titus Young lining up in the wrong spot on purpose) vs the team having a lack of talent and getting beat, today. Rex has the team playing hard, he changed this offense this year to limit how much our QB has to throw it, he has our defense overperforming after losing what should have been the player that makes our defense go. Rex can be a good coach for this team, and this team seems to be performing to their talent level, not underperforming. If this was a loaded team like the Chargers used to be or Eagles and they were underperforming their talent level, sure Rex definitely should go. But as of right now, if you make a list of peopel to blame, Tanny is #1 far and away ahead of Rex Again, if the new GM wants to come in and get a new coach, go for it. But Rex shouldn't take the fall with Sparano and/or Tanny staying.
^right on, Petro. No one can give a specific reason why is guy should be retained as a head coach. Edwards and Mangini were fired because the team steadily declined. Hasn't that happened now for the last three years? It's time to burn the house down. Bring in polian and gruden or cohwer, and trade anyone that is viable, and institute a five year plan. Let's get serious, for once.
Lets see. While I select the people that I want on my team, HR ultimately makes the decision on whom to hire. Or at least it works that way in the last few places I worked. Cause while I know the talent I want to bring in based on the interviews I conduct, HR says we can't pay this guy X. Or do you work in a world where money is no object?
Ok, get shot of Rex, and put who in? So easy to say Fire fire fire..... I'm all for keeping Rex one last season. The whole regime above him is flawed and definitely needs sorting. I'd love us to get a decent OC so he could concentrate on doing what he does best and run the D as well as the team. HC's are not built overnight and I'm not about to give up on him yet.
I like Rex as a DC. That way he does what he does best - coach defense, and doesn't get a chance to open his trap to the media. Too bad we won't be able to have him just as a DC.
The team is PLAYING HARD? You must be kidding me. Did you see the O line today? And the man admitted last season that he lost touch with the players. That's grounds for firing right there.
This I'm with, but I don't see Woody cleaning house. So then what? Rex should not be the guy to leave with Sparano or Tanny staying. If Tanny leaves, and the new guy wants a new HC, let him get one. If he thinks it can work with Rex, let him keep him. It comes down to the new GM to make the decision. But if we firing Rex to fire him and keeping Sparano and or Tanny, thats dumb
Hey, it's a good question & don't think somebody new to the Jets would understand the logic. Won't try to speak for everybody but let me give you the reason why I want to bring Rex back. Jets history. I've seen some real crappy coaches/teams. I've been a Jets fan since around 1980. I've seen Jets teams constantly get their doors blown off & struggle to win just one game (under Kotite). I've seen Jets teams that can compete with every team in the league but still lose every damn game in the final 2 minutes (under Coslet). I've seen coaches quit just to go to college & quit to coach other NFL teams. There's been so many times I thought we had our franchise QB or thought this team "turned the corner" & then proven wrong. There's been a long series of heart break over terrible draft day decisions.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98. The few playoff performances Jets have had resulted in some really heartbreaking exits. Gastineau's roughing the passer, Shula failing to cover the field prior to Mud Bowl, Doug Brien's missed FG, some others that I won't wanna type up anymore. Jets rarely get knocked out playoffs convincingly. It's usually the kind of loss that leaves you annoyed/pissed off long after the game ends. Then a bunch of years without another playoff appearance. === Now coming back to the current regime under Rex: The first two years under Rex with 2 AFCCG losses is the most successful run I have ever experienced as a Jets fan (which is about 30 years). Not only did the Jets make it to playoffs two years in a row but they actually won playoff games. Under Rex regime, I've seen Jets make clutch plays to win games (during Rex second season mostly). This is all a brand new experience. Rex still pisses me off with the offense futility. However, I never saw Namath play live. Rex is still the coach who brought this organization to its "Golden Age" in my eyes. Because of Rex record vs. Jets franchise history, I'm willing to wait. I've seen enough failure that I don't want Rex to leave until after he gets a second starting QB. I'm not saying Rex is the best coach in the league. Also not saying he'll definitely turn it around. When it comes to impact, I still think Parcells did more for this organization than Rex. But we've had very few years of good coaching here & that's why we should move slowly when it comes to firing Rex. === tldr: With our history, I think it's unlikely the next HC will be as good as Rex. As you stated in your original post, outside of Weeb & Parcells, Rex is the most successful Jets coach.
Agreed. Get Norv in there if possible doing so you get a new offensive scheme. something familiar to work with sign only necessities back. and give whoever our starting QB for next season some Threats to work with ! not just random WR's REAL threats. Holmes,Edwards,Kerely,Hill doesn't seem all that bad.. if they even decide to keep Braylon which I hope they do.
Go ahead and give me a list of coaches currnetly in the NFL and give me the names of any of them not named Belichek that got to back to back AFC or NFC title games in the last 10 years, Wait that guy doesn't exist and he did it despite having the worst QB in the league, and we lost a meaningless game today with a rookie QB who has never started a NFL game, What else is Rex suppose to do
How can you have bravado when you are heading for 6-10 or 7-9? He sounded like this after the Miami game last year when they were officially out of it. Besides, don't you think its possible that Woody, Tanny and Rex had a sit down and decided to mail it in for a higher pick? While I don't think that's the case, its always a possibility. And as everyone has already said, there is a severe talent deficit on this team.
So you think they quit, or are they bad? The reason there was more sacks today is because McElroy was holding onto the ball instead of Sanchez throwing into the dirt or into triple coverage. The OL has played like this all season, so did they quit all season on Rex? There is a HUGE difference between getting beat and quitting. If you are pointing at poor play as quitting, then you don't understand qutting. Quitting is someone catching a ball and just falling to the ground to avoid the hit with open yeards. Quitting is watching your QB get picked and nobody trying to stop the pick 6. Quitting is a RB breaking the first line of D and the defenders not hustling after him or just watching.
