Nice to see Matt Ryan, who everybody here LOVES, with a ton of weapons, once again pulling his late-season El Foldo. What odds can I get on them being 1-and-done again ?
Kind of funny that Sanchez needs "chemistry" with his receivers to do anything, yet the Pats signed Donte Stallworth this week and Brady nailed him on a deep pass for a 63 yard td against the Texans.
I'd expect the same out of a marginally competent QB. "Chemistry" is blown out of proportion as some think that you absolutely have to have it on almost every pass play for the QB to be successful, rather than it being helpful in certain specific situations.
Yeah and losses now both showed up for the Falcons and Texans this week. There will be more losses for both of them and their record will come back down to earth. That's what I'm saying. The season isn't over, their records will change
so is this your first season watching football? or do you just exclusively watch tebow? (stallworth was on the record breaking 2007 patriot offense)
1) It's Tom fucking Brady. 2) He's played with Stallworth before. 3) Sanchez sucks, but if the Jets sign Braylon I think they'll have instant chemistry.
also chemistry is absolutely important look at peyton manning this season. hes only gotten better as the 'chemistry' between himself and his new receivers improves i mean, why wouldn't you expect a quarterback to anticipate the way a guy comes out of a break, or if he bursts late, or is quick at first then looses steam, or the million other things that are different about every receiver that would affect the accuracy of the throw in a given situation its fucking frustrating on this board sometimes
Sobering stats: Pats have scored 227 more points than the Jets, their point differential is +198, the Jets is -61
We are actually a really good football team if you think about it. Our own QB is against us yet we were in alot of close games this year haha
Speculation doesn't supersede their record though, and by your own position the record can't be minimized. they are what their record is.
so then explain why marky mark needs 3 years to build chemistry when any other qb needs a number of weeks? its not like the jets have changed receivers every week, they change them every year.. which means he gets the off season, preseason and season to build this almighty fucking chemistry yet he cant build it.... its a fucking 15 yard out... run it 200 times and you should have it down. what is mark doing out there in whats it called jets west? running a fucking wishbone offense with his receivers?
Yeah, 40 something catches some 4 years ago and he was there for a single season. Hardly much time to develop the "chemistry" that many around here allude to with Sanchez. I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. Go ahead, let's look at Peyton Manning this year. Here are his stats from the first 8 games of the season: Code: 19 26 253 73.1% 24 37 241 64.9% 26 52 330 50% 30 38 338 78.9% 31 44 337 70.5% 24 30 309 80% 22 30 305 73.3% 27 35 291 77.1% So, how much "chemistry" did Peyton have with his receivers in the first few games of the season ? My point is that many around here who defend Sanchez are quick to throw out the "chemistry card", saying that Mark hasn't had time to develop chemistry as the receiver group changes year to year. As if somehow, if he had the same receivers for 4 years, he'd go from a low/mid 50's comp % to 60+. The level of "chemistry" that you mentioned is something that a QB should be able to figure out in perhaps a couple of practice sessions (depending on how much time is spent targeting the one receiver.) The "chemistry" that takes real time to develop is way beyond what you are referencing. It's both players being on the exact same wavelength and being able to "talk" to each other with just a nod. For the QB and receiver to just be in complete synch with each other on every play. To know what exact route the play calls for, but based on who the defender is and how he is lined up, for the WR to modify the route slightly and for the QB to know/anticipate what the WR is going to do. To know if the exact same play is called again, but if the defender lines up to defend in a slightly different way (to better defend what the WR just did) for the WR and the QB to both know the next way the route will be altered. True chemistry explains how QBs can operate at the very highest levels. Lack of chemistry doesn't explain why Sanchez plays as poorly as he does.
Just curious, but if Jets back into playoffs and Sanchez manages to get us to another AFC championship game... Do people give him the benefit of a doubt and say, okay he is our guy next year? I am a former supporter of Sanchez (cant get past the mental mistakes, the drops are not his fault) But, in his first two seasons, he is good in the playoffs. Just wondering where people stand if he ends up having a good playoff run...
id say mark had pretty good chemistry with the group of receivers last year, considering we were number 1 in the redzone. if you want to talk about training camp, what receiver on the squad wasnt injured during training camp or at one point during the season? hard to develop chemistry when you are throwing to different people every week, and their assignments change due to injuries as well. hell even keller isnt the same player this season, when he manages to get on the field. there is a difference between practice and a game, and there has been just about zero consistency on the offense this season in that regard. fuck man, tone had a huge game the week before his season ending injury. are you gonna tell me that was just a fluke? and that mark just got lucky once again in that game? it has to come to a point where you stop looking at one fucking person on the team and take the whole situation in perspective. it gets so fucking frustrating trying to argue with people because immediately i can guarantee that 95% of the board will read this post and go, 'SANCHEZ HOMER BLAH BLAH whatever other bullshit they will spew,' without taking the time to consider the circumstances of the season. mark should be playing better, but its not as if it all falls on him. not when the team has literally crumbled around him. when the offense is constantly plugging guys into new spots, it becomes hard to expand the playbook, and it becomes even harder on the young inexperienced backups to pick up the different assignments each week, when they are still trying to make sense of playing in the big leagues. that this team is even in playoff contention is a testament to the coaching staff, yet all anyone wants to talk about is how bad mark is. yeh i get it, hes not playing as well as wed hoped, but who else on this offense is? powell and mcknight have been on and off the inactive list. maybe shonne greene as he makes his way to another thousand yard season? what the hell do you guys expect out of this offense? while i would hope they could move the ball more effectively, and stop missing blocking assignments leaving free paths to the qb, once tone went down we all thought the season was a lost cause. the team has fought its way into contention and now its not good enough. unreal.
ok, so you can look up stats, wonderful. you might have noticed who else was on those teams, who might have also had record breaking years, who might have taken away catches from stallworth... im not even gonna bother continuing that. stallworth was released because they didnt need him. not because he was bad or didnt work well with brady. those manning stats do nothing but illustrate the point i was trying to make. attempts and completions aren't the whole story, but why am i telling you that, you are a tebow fan. funny how now it is the only important thing when looking at a denver qb... that stuff you are trying to refer to as advanced chemistry, thats the stuff that needs to happen in nfl games for the offense to be successful. if you cant expect that the receiver will make the same adjustment as you want, then you just have to hope he does. and about jets west, what receiver is on the active roster now that went to jets west? schillens and kerley... who does mark play best with? kerley, with schillens in second, and schillens would have better numbers if he could hold onto the football. so what was the point of bringing that up? to show how the guys on the roster have been brought in with little practice time?
It is not just chemistry but trust and talent also. the current crop of receivers are young, inexperienced or suck. What does that mean it means you cannot count on the receivers running the proper route they have trouble getting separation or run bad routes. Or you just have to have the perfect throw every time and Sanchez will not make the perfect throw every time. To me it is not Sanchez's throwing that is the problem per-sey it is the dumb-ass fumbles. You can survive an INT butt he fumbles kill you and he just keeps doing it over and over. With that being said his throwing and confidence at this point look shattered. You cannot play QB in this league without confidence. The good to great Qbs have an unflappable dear I say cockiness about them even when they suck. When Sanchez plays poorly his whole body language changes and you see the confidence leave him. Hopefully Braylon would help restore the confidence if not Mccelroy or Tebow should be playing.
mark has never been good. he has never had this chemistry. it doesnt take 4 years to build chemistry is what i am saying. he has never built chemistry with his receivers, not even keller. he still hits him in the back of the head with the ball last year at least once. thats not because they didnt have chemistry, its because mark is a scared qb basically trying not to get hit on every play. i dont expect world beaters out there, i do expect a simple 10 yard comeback to not be 3 yards inside and 2 yards high.... all of a sudden after a huge win over the cards and jags the coaching staff is doing an awesome job? did you watch those 2 games? they were fucking painful to watch.
