You are dead on the money with everything except option C. Most likely option A. Then when next season falls apart too it will be option B. I can tell you what Tanny and Woody's calls are.....its Tannendouche asking Woody what kind of lube he would like him to use to play catch the slippery pickle.
This is a good post. I think the one difference is that Jones is a decent evaluator of talent. He's the GM for Dallas. Woody doesn't know shit when it comes to that stuff. And I agree it's going to be very hard for Woody to can Tanny, b/c Tanny's basically his football brain. He depends on him. We are so fucked.
The jets will simply hire more personnel. I think Tanny will get demoted or take on just the cap. the jets are gonna demote him. They have to. They kept bradway and at least he was a scout at some point and time. Tanny is a lawyer who never scouted players. That is fact.Tanny has a minor in sports management . Wow a minor? Just look at his wiki. Nothing to do with talent. So he is about as knowledgeable as a fantasy sports team owner.Wow, he has a certificate in sports law. Big deal.
T can't say it's Rex's fault without going down with him. It's either A or C and I have a feeling it's C at the end of the year. It's clear what Woody wants this team to be, elite status for decades to come (Ravens, Pittsburgh, Patriots, Giants, etc.). And we never were under T or Rex. Only regression, finger pointing, and more excuses.
Fantastic original post. I don't disagree much w/ the original premise. We do often disagree on specific players & philosophy but w/ this on w/ you. I see 3 distinct problems for the Jets. This isn't anywhere near as far off as the 96 Jets were. Jets lack depth,offensive skill & youth/speed at linebacker.You can likely address 2 of those in 1 offseason. But to truly be divisional contenders Jets need 2 offseasons. They've also got to figure out how to stop this sloppy conservative mess of an offensive system & turn into a polished modern day NFL offense. By any means necessary.
Either Make Tebow or McElroy the starter and see what they can do. Sanchez is NOT a franchise QB, so move on. Tebow would surely energize the fans and maybe win some games. McElroy might be the long term answer, but we will never know.
Gene Chizik won a national championship in college the same year of Ryan's 2nd AFC title game loss and he has been fired. This idea that Ryan deserves to coach the team in 2013 because he had some success years ago is ridiculous. Ryan should only keep his job if his superiors think he can do a good job. I am tired of hearing and reading about some good stuff Ryan and Sanchez did many moons ago.
Br4dw4y5ux: I just wanted to point out that going 6-10 is significantly different than going 8-8 even if neither gets us to the playoffs. At 6-10 we are much more likely to go the "good" or "ugly" approach, but an 8-8 season will yield a much more likely "bad" result. That brings up an age-old question: Should Jets fans root for the Jets to lose? I don't believe so -- I want my team to win every Sunday, but I can understand some fans who would much rather us be 6-10 than 8-8.
What's even more absurd is what they did what not even THAT good. Year one, was a complete back in, and they got a little hot. Year 2 was a solid team, but so much went their way during the season. And oh by the way, we freakin lost the afc title games, that everybody (including the team) loves to bring up. I have never seen a team get such mileage off making a few conference finals. One of which was a total gift. They were fun little runs, but lets not make like we were dominating the league , winning anything meaningful. Fans are one thing, but the team pats itself on the back way too much for these 'accomplishments'
This. My thought is that this league begins and ends with the QB, but I don't see any QBs coming up worth a first-round pick. I would honestly prefer that we even trade down and stockpile picks for 2014. Accept that we'll go with McElroy or a journeyman FA for next year and focus on OL and LBs next year. Don't care where Sanchez or Tebow go.
Not all QB's who enter the league do so as "Can't miss" type prospects. You have to let your scouting dept/player development people do their jobs to decide that. Now that the rookie wage scale is in place..the jets could actually afford to just keep drafting QB's until something sticks. Similar to what Baltimore did before they finally landed Flacco. That said..looking at this draft..I think it makes sense to concentrate on improving depth/trench play..and worrying about QB/Offensive skill the following offseason.
Woody made major changes after 9-7 in 2008. I hope he finishes the job he started that off-season and sweeps out the rest of the trash from the immediate post-Parcells era. He has given us a precedent to believe that 8-8 won't save people if he thinks the team is off-course. I believe you always root for your team to win. Teams that lose tend to follow that up with more losing. I don't want Coples and Wilkerson and Davis and the other young guys looking around at a bunch of defeated vets in the locker room just going through the motions. That may produce a better draft pick but it will produce a worse locker room and both are important despite what Mike Tannenbaum thinks.
The Jets need to take the best player available on each of their picks this year. There is just not enough talent on this roster to pretend that cherry-picking is an option. If they need to trade down a bit to make the fit better while also acquiring extra/future picks then that is definitely the way to go. It won't matter if Bradway and Tannenbaum are driving the process though. Their pattern is so clear at this point that there is no point in detailing it again. I think the thing holding the Ravens back right now is Flacco. You really need to have the right guy sitting there and then get very lucky on the pick also. I agree that there is nobody in the first round that is going to help the Jets much. The top of the second might be a good place to take a shot on somebody who slips.
While I don't want to quibble over much regarding what is basically a very good OP, I would point out that the changes made after 08 were to some extent necessary. Favre was not coming back, and the Jets did not want to turn the team over to Clemens. So a new starting Qb was going to have to happen. Of course it is also true that the Jets, on paper, did not HAVE to get rid of Mangini. But Mangini had already had his really bad season in 07, and while I blame Tanny more for that Kendall fiasco, Mangini was all in on it, too, from all reports. (I am not saying the Kendall fiasco was the sole or even main reason Mangini got shitcanned, but I do think for whatever reason Tanny got a pass for 07, while it was something held against Mangini.) Plus Mangini's public image had quickly gone from making appearances on The Sopranos to that of an HC who could not control his team as 08 frittered away. Those being the two big changes from 08 to 09, I don't really think that transition amounts to persuasive evidence that Woody will blow up the team THIS off season. The blame the season on Revis and Holmes being hurt scenario is tailor made for Woody right now. He was all in on the Tebow trade, and can't blame anyone but himself that that blew up in his face. Still, I think Tebow will be gone this off season, so I don't see option C as most likely. I come down on the option B scenario as most likely.
As far as the draft and perhaps some possible FA moves are concerned, I see the Jets mostly going BPA, with some exceptions like cb, C and DL not likely this off season, probably not LT, either. What about Qb? People say that the draft looks thin at Qb this coming off season. Hm. Just another reason to see what McElroy can do before we get to the off season, as far as I am concerned.
Tannenbaum was onboard in 2007 and 2008 also. He got a pass and Mangini took the fall. Well, now we have 2011 and 2012 to add to the ledger. For 2007, 2008, 2011 and 2012 just about any GM would be sitting on the hot-seat. We'll see how it goes but I'm leaning towards Woody makes changes. Put another way: are the issues the Jets faced in 07/08/11/12 the fault of Eric Mangini and Rex Ryan or are they indicative of a deeper problem in the organization? It's hard for me to see Rex and Tannenbaum both back next season. Somebody has to take the fall for the disaster playing out in front of us and unfortunately Terry Bradway isn't a big enough player to do that well all by himself.
It's looking like Plan B again. If they go to plan C, I'll kill myself. The question is would Woody go with the "Good" plan and if so, who will be his next yes man?
