Which is why I want Tanny fired even more. He didn't do anything to help this team and left them high and dry. I like Rex, but I consider that if a new GM came, Rex's job isn't that secure.
New GM will mean new coach which means new QB. Would love to get Alex Smith to start, a wide receiver who is not terrible, and Ryan Nassib to develop to be the long term starer. He has come a long way in four years and makes some great throws now that I never expected him to make. Also, need a new tight end, guard, tackle, and running back on offense. (qb, rb, te, wr, g, t) The defense needs new linebackers, and if they can get a pash rusher in round 1 and another linebacker later in the draft, the defense will be ok. (2 lbs, and maybe a safety?) The rest of the team needs to be good depth players.
Yes this is the first thing that should happen. It already should have happened. I hope it happens soon. Then let the new GM make the decision on a HC.
I can't think of a single scenario in the history of the NFL where a team hired a new General Manager and kept the same Head Coach and they had success (meaning they won a Super Bowl). If anyone can think of one, please enlighten me.
New GM will have to be granted final say on all moves and no more Tebow stunts Woody sign the checks and say nothing at all Get us a GM from Baltimore, Pittsburgh, New York(the real team), San Francisco, Indianapolis(love that guy) or Green Bay New HC- offensive minded New DC 2 Pass Rushers Running Back Young QB Guard Wide Receiver
Jerry Reese has won two Super Bowls with Coughlin, who was hired by Ernie Accorsi three years or so before Reese took over.
never happens because a GM knows the HC and QB make or break them this isn't a talent problem its a lack of talent depth and coaching problem we mismanage players, we dont simplify things, we dont adapt or adjust start fresh and lay out a foundation, start from the QB to the O-line and out we got a ton of young talent and we just need to build around our young D-Line, Elite Secondary and build the O-line and run game get a TE and some receivers, a workhorse and competent coaching staff
wasn't Reese always with the Giants though edit- since 94 he was there so he was hired from within which isn't the same as getting a new guy from another organization
I'd like to see somebody from one of the consistently good franchises come in as GM. Let him make the decisions on who coaches and who evaluates talent. The organizations that basically stay good with occasional rough patches are the Steelers, Packers, Patriots and Giants. You can't take somebody from the Patriots because that's just organizational suicide. We're dealing with a GM right now who grew up rooting for the Pats. The Jets are a rotational mess every few years. These are probably unrelated facts but you still should not be in that position. You can't take somebody from the Giants because the Jets will never win the market being Giants, Jr. So that leaves the Packers and the Steelers or somebody from their organizations who went elsewhere recently and might be looking for a change. Those are the places to look, the places where good winning football is organic not just a passing phenomenon. BTW, I left the Ravens off the list because they don't cop Super Bowls with any regularity. Same for the Falcons and Bears. The point is to build a great franchise that is then in the Super Bowl conversation and wins one now and then. Not just to build a powerhouse that falls short every year for one reason or another.
I am not so sure the Patriots are one of the great franchises..YET. They have only been consistently good with arguably the best QB of his generation (in my opinion at least). Lets see how good the Pats are once Brady retires or eventually fades a bit with age.
I disagree with two small points: first, the Jets can absolutely make it in the New York market by being "Giants Jr." Winning provides all the brand equity you need in sports. If there's a good candidate in the Giants front office, he shouldn't be disqualified just because he works in the same stadium as the Jets. Second, I don't think it's wise to disqualify candidates from franchises like the Ravens and Bears just because they haven't won the big game in a while. Is it really the assistant GM's fault that Jay Cutler got hurt in the 2011 NFC Championship, or that Billy Cundiff couldn't hit a chip shot for the Ravens last year? Either of those things changes and those teams are probably in the Super Bowl. You need even parts skill and luck to win a championship in this league, and at a certain point it becomes arbitrary to disqualify front office candidates if they've built great teams for a decade but just haven't gotten over the hump.
This is the Jets we're talking about. They should just do the simplest, wisest thing and that would be going to get a GM from one of the hallmark franchises to come in and try to right the ship. As much as the Ravens and Bears have been better than the Jets for the last decade, and they have been, they're not a hallmark franchise. The reason the Ravens haven't gotten over the top is the QB position. One of the reasons the Bears haven't gotten over the top is the QB position. The reason the Steelers and Packers (and Giants) have gotten over the top is the QB position. It's just simplicity. Don't over-think the move to the next FO. Just go get somebody from a franchise that consistently manages to stay in the Super Bowl conversation and actually wins one or two a decade.
So you are saying (and I agree with you) is to draft/aqcuire a franchise QB. The rest usually falls into place. Marino is just about us unlucky as it gets by not having a team around him to help him win a SB. In todays day and age Marino would be even better with the rules as they are and would run out of fingers for rings. Does he have any kids? :breakdance:
Ideally I'd love Peyton, but I don't see him leaving the Saints. I want a tough disciplinarian, not a "players coach". I don't see how you hire a guy from college.I think a coach with a proven track record who would command respect is what's necessary here. GM has to be addressed as well.
How about Andy Reid, I kno his last 2 seasons have been bad, I blame his Qb for that though. Id avoid Super Bowl winning coaches. History dont lie, they dont win. Shannahan might change that though
For what it's worth, I think that you can win a Super Bowl with Jay Cutler as your QB. Flacco not so much, but to be fair he was Baltimore's best player in the AFC Championship last year. Generally he needs to be carried by his supporting cast though (sound familiar?)
I don't know how you can say that about Flacco but not Jay Cutler. Cutler has been carried by that D and only made it to one AFCCG loss(which he didn't finish). Flacco did what he had to do to put his team in the SB with the game on the line but his WR and K blew it
Bill Cowher or Jon Gruden We need a big name who is proven and who will be able to control the team. Rex lost control a year ago and still doesn't have it. Taany should be gone no matter who is coach. The best move he ever made was a no move to resign a new contract with Revis.
^Tanny trading (was it a 3rd or 4th?) for Braylon and letting him go 2 years later, nice investment. And all that guaranteed money to el capitan Holmes, he truly deserved it *cough, cough* Tanny b-lows hard. Goodbye Rex should be demoted to DC he has no control of this team, turkey. Bring in a fucking General who leads a tight, well oiled war machine to battle.
