Completely disagree. The Jets have a lot of holes to fill, yes, but a lot is intact: --Secondary: Bring back Landry and Bell (hopefully) plus Antonio Allen and the Secondary needs no additions. --D-Line: Solid --RB: Powell looks good and Greene will either be back at a reasonable price or he'll be replaced by someone just as mediocre-ly talented. I am concerned about the QB position, replacing Bart Scott and Calvin Pace (both will be cut) and trying to improve the pass rush, RT, replacing or re-signing Slauson, and WR. These holes IMO don't mean that the Jets aren't going to compete for the next few years. It's reasonable to expect that first and second round picks (hopefully RT and WR) would fill at least one of those holes. Per Nyjetscap.com, cutting Holmes, Jason Smith before his roster bonus, Calvin Pace, Bart Scott, Eric Smith, and Tebow would bring the cap number down to about 108.51. Add in $6 million for draft picks (to be safe) and that's 114.51, leaving about 6.5 million between the Jets' cap number and the 2013 salary cap ($121 million). Assuming all of that cap space goes to increase the team's depth, I'm hopeful that we'll have 2-3 big holes (in this case OLB, ILB, and pass rush) going into next season at most.
That's the thing: I think Rex will field a good defense for the most part when he's here. The defense has been pretty average this year, but it hasn't been terrible, and that's without the player the whole defense was built around, and with an awful, old group of linebackers. There's a way to fix the team, even around Sanchez, and get the team back to the playoffs. Hell, we've made two AFC Championship games with Sanchez, and to contrary belief, he hasn't really regressed as much as he just hasn't gotten better. I think they may have to stick with Sanchez next year because the draft is weak and the $8m guaranteed. If the Jets make the wrong moves in the offseason and get the injury bug again, the Jets will look awful again, and Rex will likely be gone. I know the season is likely over, but there's still five games left. Not saying we're going to make the playoffs, but I'm really curious to see how Rex gets this team to play with the playoffs not really a realistic goal. As bad as the Jets are, nobody left on the schedule is clearly better. Maybe San Diego, but they're pretty bad, and that game is at home. If this team goes 1-4 in the last 5 games, it will look bad on Rex. This team is pretty bad, but so are Jacksonville, Buffalo, Tennessee and Arizona. The Jets stink, but there should be at least two wins there. Sad I can't say more right now.
Just going by your first paragraph, I do agree with most except this idea that the Jet front line is not that bad. The only guy I see on that line that has the chance to be very good is Wilkerson. This idea that Devito or Pouha are serviceable worked if they continued to be run stopping and dominating at that...because they could be the most useless lineman putting pressure on the QB in the NFL. Now that they are not even dominating the line of scrimmage...Im not so sure, Im not so sure we have anything to build with. Ellis has shown signs...Wilkerson has shown really good signs.
This should really be the end of the thread. With those kind of results, it almost doesn't matter if it's "Rex's fault" or not. Losses are losses but that's just evidence of a team being totally unprepared to compete. The 2012 Jets are playing like a young "rebuilding" team with rookies all over the field. The problem is, their roster is filled with vets who are overpaid and not getting any younger or better.
There are legitimate reasons to fire a head coach and this is one of them. I see no possibility of anything changing for the better with Rex for another season. The staff he put together is awful. There has been zero individual player development/improvement over the past couple of years.
Blow this disaster up and start over again...What makes you think this brain trust who brought in Kyle Wilson, Coples, DuCasse, Conner, Stephen Hill, Sporano Tebow can make good moves going forward....This team is back to the Kotite years and if you listen to Rex, "we played hard". "We will work harder in practice", "I like our guys", "Sanchez gives us the best chance to win", he is just as clueless as Richoe K was...
Yeah we flat out blowed as an entity today sad to be a jets fan when our expectations are sold in the offseason and nothing goes according to what is being garunteed no separation on offense no penetration on defense and the special teams players arent strong enough. So we have to look at this organization inside and out.
I would imagine our requirements moving forward is that our new leader is: 1) An offensive mind. 2) A take no crap, I'll bench you for running a wrong route disciplinarian. 3) Someone we can trust with being involved in the player selection process, rather through being the GM them self or at the very least not a biased noob. So who is available that fits this description?
Because Parcells wouldn't have put up with all the issues Sanchez has playing his position. Parcells would have benched Sanchez long ago or has been pointed out, never drafted him in the first place. Do you really think Sanchez has the moxie to be able to handle the shitstorm coming from Parcells after some of his perfomances this season? Parcells would have lit him up privately and more likely than not, publically. I question if Westhoff already checked out on the season.. Either way, we get one more year of "The Circus" before all of their contracts run out. Get used to it and if you're gonna brag about the Jets in 2013, keep a bottle of Soy Sauce around. You can eat damn near anything if you put enough Soy Sauce on it.
Winning. I could give a fuck about moral victories, good practices or getting better. This team needs to get tighten up. Winning is the only thing that matters. Rex is too casual and lenient. Great coaches identify strengths and weaknesses, understand the pulse of their team and make appropriate adjustments. Rex is a turkey.
Jay Gruden qualifies for #s 1 and 2. I don't know how good he is at selecting players. I don't know how much input he had in the player selection process when he was the head coach of AFL and UFL teams. I feel he is doing a pretty good job as the Bengals offensive coordinator. 49ers offensive coordinator Greg Roman is a future NFL head coach. I have heard him interviewed. He is legit. You can tell from the way he talks that he will not be a clown coach like Edwards or Ryan. Seattle OC Darrell Bevell should become a head coach within a few years, but I don't know much about his personality and what not. Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton should get a NFL head coaching job in January. He deserves it. He has three Super Bowl rings as a player and two as an assistant coach. He knows from winning. He is a tough guy who commands respect. As an added bonus, he is 52 years old and sports cornrows so you know this guy is cool. As of this writing, I want the Jets next head coach to be one of those four guys. I was vehemently opposed to the Ryan hire. Hopefully, this era ends on December 31 (black Monday in the NFL). I would celebrate big time on New Year's Eve.
I assume you mean Jon. I prefer Jay. He is younger and hungrier and hasn't won a Super Bowl as a head coach. Seriously, that last thing is an issue. No SB-winning head coach ever then led another franchise to a SB win.
Obviously I have no idea of exactly how things go before/during the draft, but I seriously think Rex has a lot of input into who ultimately Tanny selects. I think Tanny has the final say, but I seriously doubt that Rex says, "We need a pass rushing LB, and there's a guy there that I love", and Tanny says, "Nah, I'm taking Vlad Ducasse." Who knows really, just my input.
You didn't mention any one in upper management as a candidate. I would be curious as to who you'd pick to "shop for the groceries"..
Being as successful as we were in 09 and 10 is not goi ng to happen through the draft. Eventually that will help,but our immediate success was from bringing guys in here like Tjones,Richardson LT,Braylon etc. At 1st this was a team that a lot of players wanted to be a part of. After 2 year,it was the opposite. No one wants a part of it and we end up with big mouth assholes like Holmes as our captain.This went from a team with character,to a team with big mouths that everyone loves to take a swing at really quick
I thought the Jets had a good WR core in 2010. No clear cut #1 but Holmes, Braylon and Cotch were very solid. It was probably Mark's best year. It is too bad we couldnt pay all those guys.
