http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...new-york-jets-suffering-from-a-lack-of-talent Skip to 04:40 if you want to go directly to Warner. I respect the guy a lot and oh my god we suck. We really suck... talent and coaching-wise! Wow. PS Let's not focus on Sanchez but on everything else other than him... as this video shows...
Marshall's Faulk point: "He (Sanchez) has the same numbers with less talent" Hey, I guess that's a positive -.-"
It's more a knock that he was never that good statistically when he was a part of our AFC champ teams.
It's a mess. You can say anything about the Jets right now and have at least a grain of truth to it. I thought everybody on that panel made points that were defensible. That's what being 3-6 with a misfiring offense does to you. Then throw in the run defense, which was terrible early in the year, special teams which have been an adventure all year long and a locker room that is clearly undisciplined and you have a major mess. I think there is absolutely no question that Mike Tannenbaum should be fired at the end of the year. Everything that has gone wrong has gone wrong on his watch and somebody needs to be accountable for that. The guy to make accountable is the GM. Let the new guy come in and without preconceptions begin the process of building a first class organization. If Woody Johnson wants the Jets to reflect well on him and be a big money maker he needs to step up and start that process by building a great organization. This is NY. He's not going to get any help from the media. He needs to build this himself.
I didn't read it that way, he was responding to Michael Irvin's argument that if Sanchez's numbers were not improving then it must be he his getting worse by saying that while the numbers hadn't improved, the talent had declined so he was getting more (or at least the same) with less. We really did look awful in those (carefully selected no doubt) clips - it was embarrassing to watch
Let's look at those two years they went to the AFCC twice in a row: 2010: His receivers were Holmes, Edwards, and Cotchery (Plus Keller). One good deep threat. One good possession receiver. And one receiver who was good if he tries. His offensive line played great that year. 2009: Cotchery, Edwards, really no one else (Besides Keller). One good possession receiver, one deep threat. Plus a great running back. Plus a good o-line. Ok, now let's look at this year and last year: 2011: Holmes, who was a lazy SOB last year. Burress, who only tried when it was in the end zone. Kerley, who really wasn't developed yet. RBs weren't the greatest. O-line? What o-line? One of the worst o-line's I've ever seen! 2012: This year, no Holmes. Just Hill who is a deep threat but can't catch a cold. Schillens who can't catch anything. And Kerley, who clearly can't do it all himself. RBs are nowhere to be found. O-line, while slightly better than last year, still sucks. But go ahead people. Tell me how it's the QB position that's holding us back even though it's the only thing that hasn't changed in the last four years.
The o-line during the run was built by Mangini. The basis of the ground and pound was built by Mangini.
Hey, does anyone think maybe, just maybe, Mark's completion percentage is so low because the receivers keep dropping his passed? Hmmmmmmm.
but QB is the biggest problem. when you have the worst player in football at the most important position on the field, that is always the biggest problem regardless of what else is going on. 25+ other qbs would have this team, with all its flaws at .500 right now
First of all how can you hate Kurt Warner, classy player and as good analyst. Anyways, that's beside the point. Why does he need to shut up? What did he say that wasn't true?
For whatever reason, Kurt didn't look at the other side of the picture. He could have shown a clip of the INT against Seattle. Or the over throw down the middle of the field to Cumberland, ending any chance we had in the Texans game. Or the sack/fumble in the Pats game. Or any of the other instances where Sanchez left points on the field due to poor decision making or inaccurate passing. What it boils down to is rather simple. Yes, we have problems all over the place, from personnel, to bad coaching, bad schemes, a young and inexperienced receiving corps, what have you. BUT, we also have a really big problem at QB and even if all else were changed, that problem would still be there.
1) Fire Tannenbaum. 2) Demote Rex to DC and give lifetime contract. 3) Replace OC - yes I know, again. 4) Scan and locate your next QB and do whatever it takes to get him. 5) Then build rest around this. 6) Do all of the above in the offseason, not now. Now is about letting what this seasons brings us with "the best team I've ever had".
Who is the main culprit for the lack of talent on O, D, and ST then? I disagree with the end. We saw, today for example, that if things do change and the parts play good Sanchez isn't a problem. Not sure about your last point. We also saw his first two years and last year, when the team plays well, Sanchez plays well. When the team plays bad, Sanchez plays bad. When Sanchez plays bad, the team isn't good enough to overcome it. When the team plays bad, Sanchez is not good enough to overcome it.