I would have gone with depleting our offensive and defensive talent over the last two years praying Rex could coach up the lack of defensive talent and Sanchez could become elite and lift the lack of offfensive talent, but that works too
I dont really feel like reading everything on this thread but some of you are quick to say Greene should shut up and run or that we need a new running back. My only question is why doesnt Greene get the same benefit of the doubt as Mark does. Everyone for years would cry his line sucks or he has no playmakers. Well Greene has the one the the top 3 worst qb's in the game so no D respects Mark at all. Greene is right, whats the worst that can happen, we can keep losong...shit that would be nothing new.
Probably because Marks horrid play is due to his soft psych and terrible decisions - Shonn's has been due to his lack of talent. Mark has shown glimpses of ability. Shonn has never, beyond the one playoff game, shown he has speed, moves, or vision. Moreover, he is paid to pound the ball - something he hasn't succeeded at doing very often.
I do give him some benefit of the doubt. Don't think he's an all pro, by any stretch of the imagination, but the blocking has been poor and the play design/blocking schemes have been terrible.
The difference between Mark and Shonn is that Mark actually has talent. The problem is that he is mentally not all there. Shonn is not only a bumbling oaf mentally, he has little speed or elusiveness and for a power back he has very little power. The chances of Sanchez going to another team in the league, being coached well, and unbusting is a lot higher than Shonn Greene going elsewhere and doing that. Greene is a guy who wouldn't start on ANY other team in the league. Sanchez would start in KC, possibly Tampa Bay, Arizona etc. It all really comes down to Sanchez pulling his head out of his ass. He's playing terribly but he has talent, he's just not having everything click mentally. It could be that he's not totally devoted to playing winning football, it could be because he drinks too much and enjoys the New York night life a bit too much, or it could be because he's not a very smart guy. Who knows? But we've seen him make the tough throws and he has had excellent games, but it comes down to his brain. And THAT'S why I think he's the better option than Tebow. Tebow can't read coverages, he's not the smartest guy in the world. He plays off of instinct, but that can only go so far when you have guys like Belichick and Rob Ryan throwing exotic blitzes and coverages at him. I don't think Mark is going to do much this year, I think it's already kind of written in stone. I'd love for him to one day just have it all slow down and click for him mentally, but I don't know. Regardless, even if we do have a different QB behind center we're not gonna be winning many games with our receivers running bad routes or running into coverage and being bullied off the line. Then you add all that to our line being leaky and our total lack of a running game or an NFL caliber RB, it's a tall order for a QB to answer to. The talent isn't all there and it doesn't necessarily excuse Sanchez for his bad play (aka ball protection), but it's a big reason why this offense is failing to do anything halfway decent. The problem truly starts at Tannenbaum. I'd give Tannenbaum a pass if he would have made some moves to sort this all out during this season but he has made no moves.
You asked how could those quotes possibly mean anything other than Greeene saying that Sanchez should be replaced as starter, so I answered your question.
Freeman is a great QB. Don't know if he would've fared any better than Sanchez here though. This place is a mess for anyone.
Of course every starting QB in the nfl has turnovers. Of course, most of them actually help their teams win. The point, which was very easy to understand is that while Greene isn't a great player, at least he doesn't kill his team with Turnovers. Sanchez isn't a great player, and he kills his team with turnovers, which makes him a much bigger liabilty. Since you had so much trouble using your own "critical thinking" skills I'll give you an example: Peyton Manning has 24 TDs to 9 turnovers and 2975 yards passing. You live with the 9 turnovers because he's throwing a lot more TDs, and moving his team down the field for scores when he isn't. Tony Romo has 13 TDs to 15 turnovers with 2916 yards passing (8th in the nfl). You live with the negative turnover differential because he will probably turn it around, and he's moving his team down the field to give opportunities to score (when he's not fucking up!). Mark Sanchez has 11 TDs to 13 turnovers with 2038 yards passing (24th in the NFL). He can't move the team, and he turns the ball over too much. There isn't much of a glimmer of hope, because he's never been able to move the team as effective as a top NFL QB, and he's always had turnover problems. So the difference is, you live with QB's with turnover problems because they usually make up for it in production. Mark does not produce, and he turns the ball over. He should have been benched long ago.
And for all you know the journalist took several quotes and strung them together as one. Or that one quote in itself was part of a longer quote. And that's without mentioning (or considering) how it can be taken out of context.
Lol ok well it is also possible that Shonn Greene was abducted by aliens and had a chip implanted into his brain to force him to say these things. I didn't know taking something out of context involved a reporter chopping up different pieces and putting them back together like magazine letter clippings on a ransom note. But since Barcs claims there is audio of this I'd like to give it a listen. Unfortunately for our little argument I think he was making that up
1st down, hand-off to Green. He picks up three yards. Same play over and over on 1st down. Time for a RB change, too.
Most casual fans can't see the forest for the trees. The players all know that Sanchez is not the team leader. He's a servicable QB but at his height, he doesn't have field vision and can't do enough things to make this offense move...except on the lousy Rams. Sorry, it's time to blow it up. The defense has declined and the coach has no answers. BTW.....Sparano is the worst thing that has happened to NY in a long time. His offense couldn't compete in division one. I don't blame the players, this is on the coaching staff. Cut Tebow. He'll surface somewhere and do well and win another division title somewhere else. Draft or trade for the new guy. Get on with the rebuild
