Let's play the blame game

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Barcs, Nov 16, 2012.

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Who gets the lionshare of the blame?

  1. Woody Johnson

    21 vote(s)
    14.3%
  2. Mike Tannenbaum

    72 vote(s)
    49.0%
  3. Rex Ryan

    22 vote(s)
    15.0%
  4. Tony Sparano

    12 vote(s)
    8.2%
  5. Mike Westhof

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Mark Sanchez

    18 vote(s)
    12.2%
  7. Shonn Greene

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Offensive Line

    1 vote(s)
    0.7%
  9. Recieving core

    1 vote(s)
    0.7%
  10. Linebackers or other defense related issue

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Barcs

    Barcs Banned

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    Who gets the most blame for our weak season thus far? I seen threads on Mike T, Woody, Sanchez, Greene, the oline, linebackers. I'd like to see who TGG ultimately feels is the most responsible.
     
  2. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    we are all 3 and 6 including the fans.
     
  3. Bannon

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    Tony Soprano
     
  4. Barcs

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    You guys might have responded as I made the poll. Please vote in it when you get a chance! I picked Tanny since he's responsible for cap space and getting talent, but it seems we have money in the wrong places and as a result have had to bring in important players that are UFAs or cut from other teams. Deteriorating offensive line and receiving core is on him, and not giving Sanchez the weapons to develop with for years to come, while making the WRs a revolving door. I think it's obvious the lionshare goes to him. We've seen Sanchez & Rex succeed in previous seasons, so I can't blame them.
     
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  5. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Clearly it's Brian Schottenheimer and Herm Edwards' fault.
     
  6. supersonic

    supersonic Well-Known Member

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    Rex is the second coming of Herm.
     
  7. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    If President Obama can get by on the argument that he inherited Bush's mess, then how does Sparano not get a pass for dealing with Schotty's mess?
     
  8. Footballgod214

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    Tony.................
     
  9. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Our offense is trash it as a whole gets the largest share of blame from me. All of them. OL for being inconsistent and unable to get any push vs PIT, SF, MIA, SEA. Sanchez and WRs for not being able to fucking audible/hot route effectively, or adjust the blocking scheme for the blitz. I'm not going to blame play-calling I think its been ok it's just flat out pathetic execution. We can't even execute a godam screen pass.

    Special teams has also had huge game-changing errors.
     
    #9 Jake, Nov 16, 2012
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  10. NY Jets68

    NY Jets68 Well-Known Member

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    The overall talent or lack thereof, should be on the list.
     
  11. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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  12. NYCKNP

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    Everyone but I picked Tanny since he deserves most of the blame for allowing this disaster to happen. 2011, the Jets finished 8-8 and Tanny did nothing to make the team better. Instead, he left them high and dry and look what happened now. If Woody doesn't want to be known as the next Dolan, he should do the right thing and fire Tanny and his cronies.
     
  13. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Most to blame is Tanny. Close seconds are Sanchez, O-line, and if rumors are true Woody
     
  14. ajax

    ajax Well-Known Member

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    Tanny all the way. This roster has serious holes & unless Rex can step on the field himself, this team is just screwed. Below is a post I put in another thread but think it applies moreso to this thread.


    OFFENSE
    RT - underachieving 2 years in a row, top salary
    LG - JAG who makes peanuts & should be OL backup for depth
    C - Elite
    RG - Over the Hill & should be retired
    RT - JAG who's saving grace is that he doesn't suck as much as WFH

    • 3/5 of this OL would struggle to even start on other NFL teams.

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    TE#1 - Keller = average TE that sometimes good hands but disappears & shit blocking
    TE #2 - Garbage

    • If you're a Keller fan, there's only one productive player here. Personally, I feel there is only a below average player paired with garbage.

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    WR #1 - Kerly = 2nd year player showing promise
    WR #2 - Raw rookie without much experience
    WR#3 - Garbage

    • There is only ONE WR that ran NFL routes last season. Chaz spends more time in rehab than on the field.


    QB - One of the highest salaries in NFL & below average player
    RB - Terrible. Greene can't block or catch, Powell/McKnight are injured & McKnight fumbles.

    Except for Mangold, Kerley, Hill (who's not productive right now) is there anybody that other teams would be interested in? If LT was on a rookie contract then he'd also be desirable. Talent here is pretty weak & Kerley is the only productive offensive player with a rookie contract. Hill is still a diamond in the rough.


    DEFENSE
    DL - Young studs & some vet experience.

    • Good right now & looks to be good in the future.

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    LB core - This entire core is pretty weak. Slow, not good at tackling, can't set the edges. Bart is playing OK but he's definitely going downhil. Except for ROOKIE DeMario, nobody would take any of these LB.

    • This part of the team has multiple Big Salaries & below average production.

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    Safety - Two very old players & bad injury history. Rex has them both pretty productive. Landry is solid run support but not so good in coverage.

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    CB#1 - Cro is one of the best in the league
    CB#2 - Kyle Wilson is OK but not top level CB
    CB#3 - Who??



    • Rex has a D with slow as shit old LB core. Pretty hard to hide so many players in defensive schemes. This D is over achieving with some glaring roles @ LB.
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    There are MAJOR holes on this roster. We're not like the Chargers who constantly under achieve with talent all-over-the-place. The talent here is just really bad.


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    If I had to blame a player, it would be Sanchez. This is a salary cap league & he's under performing his contract immensely. Year 4 & he's looking dumber than a rookie some games.
     
    #14 ajax, Nov 16, 2012
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  15. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    I picked Tanny due to putting a team on the field with little to no talent.

    I'd have Rex second for coaching an almost always ill prepared, poorly disciplined team with locker room issues for the 2nd straight year, that never focuses on their players strengths.
     
  16. laxin

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    That would fall under Tanny.
     
  17. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Tannenbaeum will win this poll with Sanchez a close second and Rex a close third
     
  18. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    The defense is always competitve and that's Rex's thing, But he knows nothing about offense so he hires Sparano who doesn't know shit himself. Hiring Sparano has to be the worst hiring in years. Sparano deserves more blame then he is getting to be honest
     
  19. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Because i could do a better job for the Jets by breaking out the madden play book, thats why
     
  20. VanderbiltJets

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    Tanny overpaid for players and the Jets' roster became:

    Top= Legit players (but too few of them)
    Middle=Decent to below average players
    Bottom= Above average to decent players

    We've seen way too many un-cuttable players stay on the roster while too many borderline rosterable but still quality players have slipped away. Tanny's supposed to be a numbers guy yet the Jets are easily in one of the five worst cap situations over the next 2 years. Thank you, Tannenbust.
     

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