Which of his receivers even run hot routes correctly when the blitz is on? He keeps hitting people in the ass and back of their helmet on plays like that. It's like there's no effective communication going on during the hot reads. Sanchez and the receivers are not on the same play in those sequences. LaDainian Tomlinson knew what to do. Jerrico Cotchery knew what to do. None of the new guys know what to do.
1. Jets are not running WCO. They haven't in my recent memories. They ran a variant of Coryell system under Brian Schottenheimer (Chudzinski variant, that is - which he learned under Norv Turner.) Of course, Schottenheimer sucked at it. They rarely attacked downfield or featured Keller as a prolific pass catching threat that he could have been. That said, the statement remains true: Jets have never ran WCO in the past half decade. 2. You could say Jets did run their version of WCO under Paul Hackett, but other than that short stint, Jets haven't run WCO in the past decade for that matter. In fact, Jets returned to the system that they started the whole thing with: Erhardt/Perkins system. That's the system Parcells brought to this organization when he took over, and it stayed here for some time. 3. You see, the formula Rex is following is a battle-tested formula that has worked exceptionally well in the past - and it will remain effective as long as you can muster the personnel to pull it off. Say, we all bitch and cry about Sanchez completing less than 60% of his passes all the time, but you know what? Phil Simms was also a career 55.4% passer, and he won two rings with that too. His YPA eclipsed 7 yard mark only twice in his entire career, and he eclipsed 4000 yard mark only once - his annual passing yardage was a shade below 3300 yards. Not to mention, he threw 15+ picks a year in his first five full years as a starter. Not too much glamorous as a QB, right? And the annual stat line reminds all of us of some QB we do not like too much - don't you think? 4. By no means I am saying Sanchez is doing anything sufficient. At the same time, however, you need to see what Simms had that Sanchez does not have. Simms had a tough OL, safety blanket like Bavaro and bruising ground game along with fantastic defense. All of which Sanchez does not have. In fact, the personnel movement of Sanchez's first few years is nothing short of laughable. LB corp wasn't bolstered at all. Jets drafted a slot CB with 1st round pick. Thomas Jones was offloaded without a suitable workhorse. They kept playing musical chair with WRs. OL - especially RT - was not addressed, and the depth was not addressed. All of these happened while Jets still managed to trade their picks away for fewer pieces to patch up the holes. 5. Why do I go back to the roster moves? It's quite simple actually - your system is only as effective as your players that have to put it together. As it stands right now, Jets do not have personnel group that can pull off any type of offense. They can't run the ball nor can they pass the ball. Greene has his share of blame to swallow but OL up front is marginally above average. In running games, I tend to think they are well below average. It's even worse on passing games. The receivers collectively play without their brains. They seem rather oblivious about the impending blitz; obviously there is a hot route, since Sanchez is hitting the receivers in the back of their helmets or squarely on their collective asses. Mental preparation of the receiving corp is nothing short of laughable. Add Killer drops to the lack of blitz adjustment, and you have a QB that can't complete a pass to save his life. 6. So... now let's take it up a notch. Is Sparano to blame? To a certain degree, I would agree that he is to blame. But then, how much of a blame does he need to take? For that, I cannot say more than 30%. The greatest chefs won't make a chicken salad out of chicken shit - and mere mortals won't either. We all say playcall this and playcall that, but what I see is, the roster Jets have limits the play calling. This OL cannot consistently provide that bare 3 seconds to the QB on passing downs. Nor can it provide a decent 2 yard push off the line on any run downs. Don't just take my words. Compare the time Sanchez has from the snap till he throws a pass and the likes of Mannings, Bradys and Rodgers have on their hand. It's not even funny. (And same goes with running game.) With this sort of deficiency up front, what do you think you can call? That double-move by Stephen Hill down the field? Sanchez will be eating turf before that happens. (Or even if Sanchez does avoid the impending pass rush through some divine intervention, Hill will still drop the ball anyway.) ========================================================= There is not much to hope for in this season. Jets are showing some critical deficiencies in OL and all 4 LB spots. Otherwise well-founded roster may be able to handle this kind of critical deficiencies from one side of the ball. If they are coming from both sides of the ball, you know such team cannot sustain anything better than mediocrity - and that would be through some divine intervention.
The funny part is he was doing that with Holmes too and he's had him for 3 seasons, no excuse to not be on the same page, when you're together for 3 years, they both should get = blame....
I think Sanchez is part of the problem but he's only part of it. There's no excuse for a TE running a route straight up the seams and getting hit in the back by a quick throw when the blitz is on. It's more understandable that a backup QB would get hit in the helmet by a throw on a hot read because he's not used to doing that. Basically the Jets offense is terrible right now in conception, planning and execution. The last thing you want to do when you have a talent deficit on offense is to play it safe and try not to make errors. That's just a recipe for disaster because the lack of talent is going to suppress scoring anyway. Adding in conservative play-calling just means the team is on a razor's edge every game and when the defense falters they have no chance at all.
I was going to bring up the Cleveland Browns 2007 offensive explosion with Derek Anderson as a mediocre QB starring for a season under an aggressive game plan. The problem is that Browns team had Jamal Lewis at RB, Kellen Winslow Jr at TE and a young Braylon Edwards. That's a huge amount of talent and potential in the skill players. It would take similar help for Sanchez to go upside suddenly at this point and this FO can't assemble talent like that.
The impression I can't shake about the Jet organization, from Ryan and Tanny on down, is that they misread the talent they have on O this past off season so badly, and so way over optimistically. You can combine that with too many players who they are not sure what to do with, and it's a huge problem. Some here saw it coming, but the question is why the Jet organization did not. Take the single case of McKnight. Right now he's banged up, as is Powell, and that leaves the running game too dependent on Greene. But at one point in the off season, they literally seemed to be planning to move McKnight to cb. At the time there was speculation that the CS was planning on using Tebow more in the running game. Pure speculation, that turned out to be. There was nothing to that. So what was the plan here on the running backs? I can't answer that. Did they really think (based on what?) that Greene could be the workhorse, with some spelling by Powell? That's just one example. Another obvious one was the notion they could plug Hill in at starting wideout, or at least in all three wideout sets. I think Hill has a lot of talent, but it's also obvious he is sadly lacking in the simple fundamental of catcthing the ball. He needs work, and only a team with a depleted receiver roster would have been starting him. With Holmes now out the only bright spot now is Kerley. Without him the Jets would have a worse roster at wideout than most colleges. Another and probably the most obnoxious is at RT. It is inexplicable how the off season went when it came to that position. Allowing Hunter's raise in his contract to go into effect without even attempting to renegotiate it, then making no move at all to back him up or replace him, finally trading him to the Rams when it was clear he was still a disaster. While Howard is somewhat better, by no means has this position been adequately addressed. But of course the most obvious example of this combination problem is at Qb. There are other examples as well, but this post has gotten too depressing for me to continue with it.
That's 2 years in a row there have been obvious problems on offense due to talent. When you're trying to make the investment in a franchise QB prospect pay off you can't cut corners around him and that's what the Jets have done. The Jets have tried to cheap it out at running back since Curtis Martin retired. They've only had one star-caliber player in the backfield since 2004 and that was Favre for one year in 2008. Obviously the QB is the more important piece of the puzzle but having a Ray Rice or a Frank Gore back there can do wonders for an offense when the QB is not a top 10 percent guy. Someday we're going to look back and wonder how the Jets played above .500 ball with Sanchez at QB and no stars around him in the offense. The Jets defense is good but it is very over-hyped due to 2009. It really has not been a shutdown defense since then. Beer goggles. The Jets traded up in the 2nd round to take a 4th round prospect who had a great combine. This is a pattern for them at this point. Lots of other things will be talked about, primarily Vernon Gholston and Mark Sanchez, but Tannenbaum lost his job farting around on the offensive line once too often.
There is a simple 1 word answer reply to your post INCOMPETENT from the owner to the HC to the coaches he choose to the GM & finally our scouting dept! :sad:
I was watching the Pitt game last night and thinking how much I wish we had a clutch WR like Cotchery.
I think the coaches need to gameplan better..Look at what the colts did to miami...They realized the fins were a top run stopping team.. Especially up the middle ... So they threw on 1st down more and ran outside counter plays away from that fat fuck solia..What do we do ??Yep run it up the gut right into him..The dolphins played us twice and almost swept us..It's like they knew what he was gonna call.. Sparano was a bad hire...So know every time we play the dolphins ,, They are gonna cost us because of sparano??
Ftr I do not think the problems with Sparano are limited to when the Jets play Miami. He has been a limiting factor in the ohter games as well.
Coaches must know what they want before they can implement a program. Rex was very clear that he thought defense and a ground attack could win in the modern NFL. They came close but unfortunately that era has past. Offense wins in the league now. Coaches who think of the game from stopping the other team point of view have no chance. Too bad, Rex is a decent sort but the NFL wants offense and have changed to rules to insure that points are scored. Until he learns that or is replaced there really is no hope for improvement.
Who hired Sparano to fix the offense and help Sanchez? The fins Offense been terrible for the last 3 years, easily one of the worst in the league. Why would anyone want to hire this guy? We have no offensive coaching, no QB, below average RBs, young receivers and an average o-line. The only thing the Jets lead in is overpaying and overhyping below average talent on offense.
The Jets offense goes as far as Sanchez takes them. So far, Sanchez is not playing well. His low completion percentage is killing drives. Just think if he connected on 5 more passes a game... the whole offense could go on for 2-5 more scores. Just think if Sanchez could hit a guy accurately in stride allowing him to make 10 more YAC. My friends, I am officially off the Sanchez bandwagon. (Edit: Please don't read that as Tebow support cause his accuracy is worse.)
Get me Mark Dominik and Greg Schiano. They are setting up the Bucs to be contenders now and for years to come. 1) Mark Barron and Doug Martin in the 1st round. 2) Dumping undisciplined selfish players like Talib and Kellen Winslow. 3) Coaching up the Defense, going from #32 (dead last) in run D in 2011 to #1 this year. 4) Offense under Mike Sullivan has scored 30+ points in 4 straight games. 5) Team that comes ready to play every Sunday, even if they are overmatched talent-wise.
You recognize that the improvement in the run defense is at least partly because the Bucs are #32 in pass defense this year, right? Nobody is running much against the Bucs because passing against them is like going to Carnival in Rio. Edit: went back to look at the numbers and the Bucs definitely are playing well against the run, 99 carries for 371 yards against on 1st down. There's also the strange distribution of scoring on their part playing a role in the #1 vs the run, #32 against the pass thing. They've scored 28+ points 5 times in 8 games, leaving several opponents in pass-only mode by the end of the game. The close high-scoring games were against Eli Manning and Drew Brees and both of those QB's tend to win shoot outs by passing the ball late.
