ok well if you want large samples: Rivers MUCH BETTER for his CAREER rivers MUCH BETTER last season rivers MUCH BETTER the last 3 seasons rivers MUCH BETTER the last 16 games rivers BETTER in 8 games this season
the one thing we didnt "used to have" is a good qb. sanchez has been trash for the last 40 games. 20 or 25 in the league would be a big upgrade over mark and have us at .500. we wouldnt be 7-1, but we would be much much better. we have all the problems you listed, but, in spite of that we have competed because guys have stepped up. mark isnt one of those guys. he has turned it over, missed open guys, made horrible rookie mistakes. he is the worst starting qb in football. he is now. he was last year, he was the prior 2 years to that.
That's certainly true. Barring Sanchez getting injured, Ryan has cast his vote...the "only one that matters". I hope Sanchez will reward such confidence. Still like to see what the other qb's can do...if we fail to make the post season.
Sanchez went off the rails the last 3 games last season. It wasn't clear this was true at the point but it's pretty clear now. If he was managing to keep things together this year that 3 game stretch wouldn't look so definitive but he's not.
[YOUTUBE]P2hRIEeh5KQ[/YOUTUBE] We need to see this guy. The Jets should shift focus from forcing Sanchez to throw little slip screens and slants and playing to his strengths, letting him rifle mid-range passes and run bootlegs.
It's not only that Sanchez playing terrible this season, the entire team has no identity. Rex attempted to return to G&P, but as SNY analyst Ray Lucas "how can they G&P when they can't even pound (no running game)". This team needs to do something in the offseason and find their true identity.
thats why we are bitching. because nothing is going to change, and it makes no sense. terrible player, terrible results, losing record but the CS and GM make no change
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VKYZOez1aw&feature=related Watched this till the 5:00 minute mark is just unreal. He doesn't even look like the same QB out of college. Look at that speed, that power, the long ball, the ability to make short throws. One of Sanchez's best traits was his rollout ability to throw on the run. Why doesn't Sparano design some rollouts for him in the endzone? I remember Schottenheimer used to take advantage of Sanchez's abilty to rollout all the time. It was very effective.
did anyone for even an instant think that maybe the running game sucks because the qb sucks and the defense doesnt really have to even give a shit about the passing game? that was the big thing with braylon a few years ago. they had so many guys up in the box that braylon was single covered with no safety help about 50 percent of the time. every now and again he would beat his guy and the cheese man would actually get the ball to him. basically what i am saying is that this useless piece of quarterback has been as bad as he has been when the defense basically doesnt even worry about the pass. they worry about stopping the run and depend on sanchez to suck in the passing game. and its been working pretty well for them.
I support Sanchez and all, and I think that if he gets benched he will be done as a Jet, in my eyes meaning he'll go to another team and tear us for years to come. I honestly really do think deep down inside that this is what will happen.
ill give him the falling back on the screen.. thats understandable. the throw to keller was high. the throw to cotchery made him stop, against man coverage. bad throw. good throw to cotchery although it was 1 yard down field. turns stuckey around because he throws it past his back shoulder. high on the next one incomplete runs, uses terrible judgement in lowering his head like you are taught not to do in pop warner and THEN fumbles the ball. luckily he crossed the goal line. another good pass behind the line of scrimmage good throw to the te, although no need to be falling away like he is. incomplete badly behind on a 5 yard crossing pattern. good pass to cotchery running scared on the next one and i cant blame him. hits the defender right in the hands, defender drops it or it would be an int. THIS is what you choose to show me what you wish he would be like? THIS terrible qb play? i mean honestly?
Your solution is to abandon ship and start over... That is probably to most detrimental and idiotic thing to do now. We get it - you think Sanchez is a piece of crapola and that he should be escorted out of the building. For some reason though, the NYJ's don't feel the same way. They didn't feel that way as they were grinding it into the AFCC game two years in a row while you were complaining, and they don't feel that way today at 3-5 and half of a season left to play, as you still complain. Maybe they see something you don't, maybe they can't afford to budge, maybe they see other problem areas worth addressing first. Whatever it is, they haven't moved on from Sanchez after 4 years of people bitching and moaning. They are likely not going to now... Sorry, but it seems that your beloved "Sancheese" is here to stay.
My point was more about playing to Sanchez's strengths. We know Sanchez has had a problem with touch short-yard passes. Greene is not a good receiver out of the backfield, yet screens to him are called far too often. We see that he is proficient at rolling out and completing passes, yet that seems to be removed from the playbook almost totally. The front office has pounded Sanchez into too much of a game manager, taking away what we saw from him earlier in his career: shades of gunslinger.
lol at mark tearing us up for years to come... only way he hurts the jets for years to come is if he remains our starter. :rofl:
we dont see the rollouts much anymore because teams scouted it and took it away early on last season.
well then "they" are likely all going to be looking for jobs at the end of the season, and rightfully so. im ready to move on from the tanny/rex/sanchez era.
sanchez pounded himself into being a game manager because of the things he showed in that clip. poor decision making, poor accuracy and scared feet in the pocket. they TRIED to pass the ball more last year, it didnt work. he cant do it. he is not serviceable as an nfl qb. he is a game manager because that is all that he can be, and he isnt even very good at that. i watched 13 plays in that clip before i got sick to my stomach. 6 bad to terrible passes out of those 13. 4 good passes, 3 of which were behind the line of scrimmage the fourth to the te on a gl situation. 1 run in which he has terrible ball security 1 running scared throw away which was not a terrible play 1 actual good pass down field. that is mark sanchez in a nutshell.
