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  1. HardHitta

    HardHitta Well-Known Member

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    I disagree with all 3.

    We dont even use the wildcat offense, I dont see how we need to lose it.

    The RETARDED plays where Tebow is a wr I agree axe those, but the WC has looked viable when we rarely use it.

    The Jets havent been a ground and pound team since 09. Its been abandoned. We dont need to abandon it, we need to embrace it. Sanchez could flourish if we had the 09 offense, but we dont. Were some retarded comp that stuffs it up the gut with no OL then passing too much.

    We need to BUILD the O in that image, now it has no identity and is devoid of talent.

    Same thing for Sparanos system. Ill concede that it seems pretty shitty right now. But our OL being horrific, and guys dropping balls (as well as major injuries @ wr/te) makes it seem even worse.

    I think if this team revamps the OL and does something about its backfield it could improve leaps and bounds.

    Depending on how we address the OL (fa or the draft) we could be solid on O either really soon, or however long it takes for our new OL guys to get used to it
     
  3. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Yes all U say was there this past off season & what did the NYJ CS & management do about it correcting it? :sad:
     
  4. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    No Champ, I'm more concerned with this upcoming offseason as what's done is done and we're seeing it play itself out on the field. This team needs to change course. Perhaps not a total 180, but definetly a course correction.
     
  5. Bannon

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    This.

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  6. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Why even concerned yourself since it is the exact same knuckleheads who made the decisions this past off season which drove us down the tubes this season? IMHO as I have posted time & time again we are now 5/8 years away from contending for a SB
     
  7. jerseyjay14

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    I agree... saqnchez biggest weaknesses are short accuracy and quick decision making. why we continue to try to dink and dunk with him is beyond me. for all his flaws he does throw a good deep ball. looking at the texans/pats/steelers game when we went down field it was our most effective offense.

    that said, i think it only works if we become a 60/40 run/pass team. if sanchez is throwing deep alot and throwing 30+ times a game he is going to be a turnover machine between misreads and sacks(line needs to hold up on long throws)

    we need to go back to the 09 offense. 15-25 throws a game for sanchez. ground and pound even when it results in frequent punts. protect the ball, rely on the defense, take your shots downfield and go from there
     
  8. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    We need to get stronger on the offensive line to accomplish any style offense.
    I've said it a thousand x, protect Sanchez and he will be a very good QB.

    I believe an improved O-Line and a top RB should be priorities in the off season.
     
  9. jerseyjay14

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    we arent going anywhere without a good QB, let alone the leagues worst. getting a competant qb should be priority #1.
     
  10. MurrellMartin

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    You need an effective QB to have a pass happy, down the field offense.

    Unfortunately we don't get to play New England's piss poor secondary 16 times a season.
     
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    Rex is trying to create a 4th dominant playbook called the Rex-inator. It's predicated on a bad OL, bad running game, and bad QB. If it works, there's at least 15 other teams that will copy it tomorrow!
     
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    One of Sanchez's biggest weaknesses is short pass accuracy. When those inaccurate short passes get intercepted it's a really bad play because of the obvious field position. His mid-range accuracy is much better than his short range accuracy.

    His deep accuracy doesn't seem that great either, but I'd much rather see a deep pass incomplete or intercepted if it's not completed. If it is intercepted, it's more like a punt. If it's incomplete, it still forces the defense to respect the fact that you're willing to stretch the field which helps open up the run game. You also have a good shot at getting a pass interference penalty when you throw deep.

    I'd love to see us cut down on the short range passes and increase the deep passes while continuing to throw a lot of the mid-range passes that we've had decent success with this year. 15 should be taking some deep shots when he's in the game too.
     
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    The pass protection has to hold up and the WRs have to beat their man off the line, then Sanchez needs to make the right read and throw.When we get protection, we can move down the field in chunks. When we don't get protection on deep routes, all hell breaks loose.
     
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    True that we need pass protection and the WR's have to beat their man. It really shouldn't take all that much longer in the pocket to hit a deep shot though, the read has to be made quicker and the qb just puts the ball out there and let's the receiver run under it.

    Sanchez has to make quicker decisions and throw the ball away if it's not there. He's waiting too long and trying to throw it away too late.
     
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    On passes thrown 11+ yards Sanchez has a career 45.3 completion percentage. He was better on those throws from 2009 to 2010 than he is now but even then his percentage was below 50%.

    The guy is just inaccurate. A good QB completes 50%+ of his throws longer than 11 yards. They complete 70%+ of their throws under that distance.

    What Sanchez was in 2010 was a good game manager. That's where his upside lay. Then the Jets let the talent around him dissipate and the fact that all he was was a ballsy game manager not afraid to stick a throw in tight places at the end of the game was exposed for all to see.
     
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  16. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    Protect Sanchez and he will do well, I'm tired of saying this over and over.

    We have no run game or pass protection, that spells trouble for any QB
     
  17. jerseyjay14

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    he sucks even with protection. hell half of his inteceptions come after holding onto the ball for 4 or 5 seconds.
     
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    agree with EVERYTHing Cman had to say. Tired of this sparano wild cat bs all it does is kill momentum. let Sanchez throw downfield and hurry up the offense with no huddle attack
    guaranteed we will see results
     
  19. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Jay half of his interceptions have been tipped balls at the LOS. With time in the pocket most passers find the open guy. Sanchez is capable with time, he needs to learn how to deal with the blitz, correctly read it and get those hot routes going when he knows its coming.
     
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    I'm a huge sanchez fan but i'm the first one to admit he's not the best at picking up the blitz at the line that's why we need to run hurry up offense so the defense don't have time to match up the best blitz.
     

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