What is the downside to starting Tebow?

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  1. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    I just dont see a downside to starting tebow

    "we might lose" - ok, we are already losing. worst case we keep losing?

    the only 2 reasons i can even think of that are somewhat rationale are:

    - mcelroy is more deserving
    - sanchez makes 14M

    and i really dont buy those
     
  2. Remarker

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    Mark is the default franchise QB (money is the issue) and has an adequate skill set to be successful providing his team mates perform to their capabilities, as is evidenced by excellent game play in some of their games.

    Additionally, the Jets have at their disposal more weapons that can be strategically used to help get wins. Smarter game planning is better than benching Mark at this point.
     
  3. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    i dont see what you are saying the downside of starting tebow would be?

    you make a few points on why sanchez should continue start, but dont really provide a reason as to what the downside of starting tebow is?

    im assuming(forgive me if i am wrong) your saying the downside is wasted money?
     
  4. John Chisum

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    Upside-Sometimes change lights a fire and gives a team a new vibe and energy. Tebow brings a swagger to the field. That could mean a renewed confidence and winning again.

    Downside-If you still believe Sanchez is your future and Tebow wins a good majority of these remaining games, every teammate will see Tim Tebow as the new leader. Sanchez may have trouble regaining what leadership role he had.
     
  5. Potzer

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    The downside is its admitting you were wrong about Sanchez being the franchise QB.

    That would be a wrong attributed to the head coach, gm, and owner.
     
  6. Remarker

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    A QB controversy splits a locker room. Split locker rooms lose games.

    Teams need to play as teams to have a chance to win.
     
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  7. Demosthenes9

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    QBs have been benched for years without causing split locker rooms. One could argue that poor QB play would cause more of a split as players might not have faith in the starter any more, and even they might think that it's time for a change.
     
  8. Remarker

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    I totally agree. There are circumstances where that works. However, a strong FO is required. I believe that's the weak link.
     
  9. NYJetsMetsCTHuskies

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    Winning brings the locker room together.

    Sanchez is no franchise QB. If he was on any other team, he would be benched already. The only reason Sanchez is still starting is Rex and T doesn't want to admit mistake just yet. When they do later on, it may be to late.
     
  10. ArmandJ

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    Downside: Someone higher up will have to admit they're wrong.

    Upside: We lose more and cut our losses. We win somewhat and look respectable. We win a lot and make it to the playoffs. We win a lot more and make a deep playoff run and play in February. We have someone who looks like a leader and not a little boy playing in a grown man's league.

    Same can be said for Mcelroy to be honest.
     
  11. Bannon

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    No downside. Chance to save the season.
     
  12. Remarker

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    Thinking about it, and remembering what Champ Bailey and some other Broncos have said about the Broncos folding in their Pats game last year, that game is an example of a locker room that wasn't all in on winning the game.

    Maybe that is a better way to describe the dangers in the Jets' locker room if Tim starts. Some players won't be all in. That's not to say they have been all in anyway. Clearly in the Miami game they weren't but 'what is the fix' is the question that must be answered and Tim starting may not be the answer.

    If I was making the call, I would start Tim and let the players either shit or get off the pot, but that's just me.
     
  13. Dierking

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    I'll say it again. I think Tebow has some kind of nagging injury that we don't know about that is hampering the Jets' ability to deploy him the way we all obviously think he should be used. Maybe bulking up wasn't a great idea. But I just cannot accept the conspiracy that the staff refuses to use him to send a message to someone, even if he could help win games. There has to be a better reason.
     
  14. Bill Belichdouche

    Bill Belichdouche Well-Known Member

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    It means that we're gonna have to pay mark sanchez for the next 4 years and hes not gonna even be on the team
     
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    at this point there is no downside. 3.5 years and sanchez is still inconsistent and hasn't distanced himself enough to not be above benching.
    only things that can happen if sanchez is benched:

    tebow lights the world on fire and we have a winning playoff season.

    tebow plays good enough to believe we have the 2013 starting qb on the roster

    tebow plays horrible but sanchez comes back with a vengance and we have our starting qb for 2013

    tebow plays horrible,sanchez comes back in worse and we need to draft a qb in 2013

    if i am missing a scenario let me know. i think mark should be on an earn your p.t. from here on out.but then once he is pulled tebow needs a 2-3 game leash minimum.
    time to find out what we need in the future
     
  16. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    id rather pay him to not be on the team, then pay him to be on the team and suck
     
  17. Demosthenes9

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    Here's the thing though, we heard throughout the preseason about the "secret wildcat plans" and all these super duper creative ways that Sparano was going to use Tebow.

    What have we seen ? Dive up the middle, followed by dive up the middle, and oh yeah, dive up the middle. Oh yeah, also 1 jump pass and 1 deep pass.

    If Tebow was injured, he wouldn't be playing and the team would have to list him on the injury report.

    Something else is up. Either he was forced on the coaching staff, they are afraid to use him as it will damage Sanchez's fragile psyche, or Sparano is an idiot and has no idea how to use him.
     
  18. Bannon

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    I'm not sure Tony Soprano is a good play-caller. It's very difficult to get in a groove and it's a talent all its own. He hasn't been the play-caller in quite some time until this year.
     
  19. JFjets

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    Downside: Tebow haters the nation over have their heads explode. Or is that an Upside?
     
  20. CowboysFan

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    Jaworski was on PTI today and said he dissected the Dolphin game plays and the play design was there but the execution from Mark was not.

    maybe Sporano is not that bad, I might have to rethink my position based on jaws' interview...the Polish rifle is many things but that guy REALLY knows football.
     

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