Jets just sent out an email to PSL holders that there are tickets in Lower Level and Mezz that only PSL holders can buy tickets at season ticket holder price. I am dieing to see how many PSL are really not sold!!
Well that's nice. Lets all ignore that those same tickets are already available for even cheaper on stubhub a couple days before the game
individual game tickets with no commitment The Jets really screwed themselves on that one. They very emphatically stated in public that they would never sell lower seats without a PSL. This is the only way they can cover themselves to unload the thousands of unsold seats, by claiming these buyers already have a PSL (just not for those seats) The kicker is they're probably going to make it a presale code like "FOOTBALL" that any moron can guess and they will never verify your credentials. But who cares because like I said you can get the same seats cheaper on stubhub for pretty much any game, you just have to wait it out til right before game time
You are 100% correct on your observation. The Giants were just smarter then the Jets from a business standpoint. I believe Jet fans where smarter then Giant fans. No way, no way in hell would I have paid for a PSL sight unseen. Hell, most of us refused to pay for Jet UD without seeing the seats. Woody will never be able to charge for a PSL in the UD until we win a couple of Super Bowls.
I agree with this sentence 1,000% "Woody will never be able to charge for a PSL in the UD until we win a couple of Super Bowls".
Every time I read stuff like this it blows my mind ! When you think of 3 years ago and the anticipation of moving into the new stadium,,,,the mindset from where I was then to where many of us are now is simply amazing . If any one had said back then That the jets were going to have a real hard time selling seats or that this would be going on most of us would have thought that was crazy ! What a shame that this stadium is what it is ,,,, a big disappointment .
If we have another 8-8 season with no POs the place will empty out even more than this year. Honestly, I don't see them collecting many of the PSL payments. People are actually going to do what I have read PSL guys on this board have said they'd do... walk away from the PSLs and the Season Tickets lock, stock and barrel. And I never thought I'd say that, because I figured all those guys who said "Screw It, I'll buy the PSL"... I figured they were on the hook but good and would HAVE TO continue paying down the PSL as well as HAVE TO buy the Seasons. But now I think I'm wrong. I think we're going to be going into an era in which guys are just walking away from all of it... calling up the Jets and telling them, "I'm not buying my Seasons this year." And when the Jets tell them, "Well, you're going to lose all the money you put up so far for the PSL," they're going to say, "Fine. I don't give a shit. I'm still walking." This is if we go 8-8 again. Many PSL guys said they could do this and I didn't believe them but I think we're going to see it. People will actually walk away from the PSL downpayment and all the payments they made into it. It was a fickle crowd to begin with... all caught up in the hype of the new stadium... delighted they could cut ahead in line, ahead of the old timers with seniority... many newbies out to impress girlfriends, etc., ... the dollar commitment doesn't matter because no commitment matters (they don't have our SS Numbers, remember?). So it'll be much easier to walk away than that stupid old Section 227 says it'll be. Well, I didn't believe them but I think we're going to be seeing it in droves. just like you saw mass defections from the old timers upstairs who felt betrayed and screwed royally, you'll see even more of the newbie PSL crowd saying goodbye b/c they had already written off the PSL bullshit as "part of the price" and "it only adds a couple of hundred to my tickets," etc. So yeah, the Jets are going to have to sell those PSL seats game-by-game to get rid of them. And of course, it should surprise absolutely no one that they are not offering them to despised, "cheap," complaining UD guys who they feel they already accomodated more than they should by letting them upgrade. Cheap sons of bitches... don't offer them the freakin' Lower Deck seats or we won't have an Upper Deck at all!
Christ, if they can't keep people in the PSL seats even with a sizable downpayment and payments in, how the hell are they going to keep anybody in the UD beyond Row 10 or 12? Frightening. And no letup in sight. Sanchez stinking up the field in Year Four with no legit backup except a trick-play artist who we never use anyway, and pretty soon we're back to Square One, looking for a franchize QB again. We are so fucked.
Ah you finally got it concerning the PSLs! Yes Woody will let them walk & keep the money of the present PSLers. Double dipping is terrific if U can legally get away with it & WJ must have been informed he is within his rights to keep PSL #1 money paid to date & then resell the PSL. If U remember way before the season started I posted I am waiting for the end of this season so I can secure row 1 UD 50 yd seats :sad:
Securing Row 1 UD 50 yd seats is going to be more difficult than you think b/c there's no PSL involved. IMO they are more desirable for that reason and a better buy than most LD seats Row 12 and beyond, PSL or no PSL. But back to the walking away of the PSLers. One would think that a cancellation of the PSL contract would at least entitle the holder of the PSL to be refunded at least a portion of what he paid PROVIDING the PSL can be resold and for the same price. But I'll bet it's in the fine print that this is not the case. That's the one thing that the PSL guys on this board never cleared up for any of us. We were never privvy to see some of the fine print... the contract so to speak. I don't believe anyone ever posted what the cancellation terms are, partially becasue most of them didn't give a shit and went willy-nilly into the thing without giving that a thought. It was like, "okay, fuck it, give me Row 23 under the drip rail in the EZ... anything to get into the 100 level." I sat in some of those seats during the cockamamie "Meet Your Seat" sales promo and believe me, they aren't so hot at all. But hey, it was the cool thing to do at the time and you could take advantage of the Seniority Guys balking at the up-sell, so you could cut in line and fuck them but good by paying a PSL for Row 23 EZ Drip Rail Lowers.
i have to wonder if the jets will still be able to get their asking price on the psls? now that people have figured it out i think its just not going to be possible for the jets to get those out of this world prices. could you imagine if they stop letting people deduct these tickets as a business expense. oh man that entire mezz section and the middle of the field would be a fucking ghost town right quick. i was listening to evan roberts and joe beningo for a few minutes yesterday, evan starts talking about the email he just got from the jets to get him to buy tickets... he basically laughed at em and said yeah no im going to stay home and watch on tv... thanks for inviting me though. it was funny, then i thought about it. i dont think evan is a psl holder... hmm i wonder if they have moved on from the psl holders and are now offering them up to the anyone who has ever signed up for anything like they did with their marketing a few years ago.
When NY Sports radio starts mocking the email, you know Woody's in trouble. And yeah, expect to offer them to anyone. If you've ever worn a green necktie on St. Patty's day, you qualify as a Jets fan. And if you've ever recited the Pledge of Allegiance, you qualify for the "Veterans Discount." they've got to move these things somehow. They'll omit the UD crowd from the eamils for now, just because they still like to piss on them. But then when the season gets real ugly, we'll be getting emails galore.
Sorry no that is where U & I are on different tracks so to speak if the NYJs tank as I expect UDers also including row 1s will also say goodbye to WJ & stay home & watch on there big screen HD TV which in a few years will be 100" making big screens of today really small. The logic would be why pay WJ $1,250.00 per seat vs seating in your home watching on HDTV & BBQing in the back yard. If U purchase 4 seats U R out 5Gs for what to watch another losing year of NYJ FB :sad: Well U signed a contract when U purchased that PSL so why would WJ have to refund anything if the PSL holder defaulted? :sad:
I agree, but we've never had anyone post the exact language in the fine print. I too am suspecting that there is no way Woody has to refund anything. If they were smart they had language in there that basically says you forfeit all monies paid to date if you cancel. It would greatly surprise me if that were not the case.
Yes if WJ employed smart contract attorneys (Which I Personally Doubt) then the clause you mentioned would be implemented in the PSL contract. Actually my foggy memory tells me 17A had a copy of the PSL contract at one time since he had purchased a PSL which he later cancelled :sad:
Yes if you do not re-up your season tickets in April or May you can easily just lose your PSL down payment and payments that you have made. It is a risky thing because no one knows what the future will bring 5-15 years from now but it does seem like a good idea if you have not made alot of the payments toward the PSL.......I have 8 PSL and have paid 10k so far. Not sure if it is worth it to bail but paying 10500 on tickets when they are going for half the price on game day maybe worth the loss now than losing 5k next year in tickets........so something to think about for everyone. I sold my season tickets for whole year and picked up club seats cheaper than my seats for each game so I wish I never bought PSL or Season Tickets....at least for this year
