We were running Sanchez out of town last season to and nothing speical happened just a melt down of epic proportions
Eli actually played pretty well in the first game (he lead the team to 35 points) but the new defense let up 45 points. He injured his shoulder that game and played a decent game against GB next week. He actually earned some man points for playing through a shoulder separation. It wasn't until the Minnesota, 2nd Redskins, and Buffalo games that the hate really began to churn up.
It's funny how nobody who makes these dumb comparisons mentions that A) the Giants were 6-2 headed into their bye week and B) Manning had a bad shoulder injury that the doctors told him was going to keep him out a month minimum and possible the season. Wake me up when Dog Shit, I mean Sanchez leads this team to a 6-2 record with a bad shoulder.
Or when Sanchez shows some of the promise Eli showed during his first three seasons, something Sanchez has yet to show as he's progressively gotten WORSE. Although it was slow moving, Eli was actually improving. The comparisons are RIDICULOUS. The 2012 Jets are NOTHING like the 2007 Giants and Sanchez is NOTHING like Eli Manning.
I'd rather start 4-4 and end up 6-2 than start 6-2 and end up 4-4. regardless of all the excuses you threw out(Sanchez was knocked silly at Pitt and that affected him for multiple games but no mention of that- how come? he's been mising most of his weapons most of the year but no mention of that- how come?). Eli threw 23 TDs and 20 INts that year before playing sanchez like in January and the D taking off to lead them to a SB.
The difference btw NYG conf title games in '07 & '11 and NYJ in '09 & '10 is that NYG's D and Sts won those games while our D got beat up both games. The difference wasn't the QB play.
Eli wasn't improving. That's why the Giants fans were throwing their hands up in the air. He threw 20 picks in 2007 after throwing 18 in 2006. His number of throws was *exactly* where Sanchez number of throws have been. His YPA went back down to 6.3 that year also. His completion percentage dropped back down to 56.1 after peaking at 57.8. He was in Sanchez-land. Then the Giants got hot at the end of the season and won an improbable Super Bowl. Eli had a couple of good seasons after than and then he threw 25 picks in 2008. The people who discount the Eli-Sanchez comparisons are only doing so because they have an agenda to sell. It's not a perfect comparison but Eli was much more disappointing as the #1 overall pick halfway through the 2007 season than Sanchez is now. It's only the difference in the fan bases and their level of discontentment that makes Sanchez seem like the bigger loser.
Sanchez in Januayr has been excellent. Let's compare them in their playoff apps through 3 years in the league: Sanchez: 95-157, 61%, 1155 yds, 9 TDs, 3 INTs, 94.3 rating, 4-2 record, led O to 20 PPG Eli: 26-45, 58%, 274 yds, 2 TDs, 4 INTs, 53.3 rating, 0-2 record(including being shutout at HOME), led O to 10 PPG. Eli's overall playoff #s: 219-356, 62%, 2516 yds, 17 TDs, 8 INTs, led O to 19 PPG if we prorate Mark's through 11 games: 174-287, 61%, 2118 yds, 17 TDs, 6 INTs, led O to 20 PPG Not so laughable now is it? NYG D in playoff games allowing 16.8 PPG NYJ D 19.8
Yeah, the offense was spectacular in the first half of the Pittsburgh game. "Oh but we came back to make it close!" Cool story bro. Philosophies and HUMAN mindsets change when up 24-0. Offense was really clicking in the second half of Indy, too. Team effort of sucking.
Yep. We're not finding a consistent pass rush anytime soon. I like Coples and Wilkerson's upsides, but we still don't have a pure outside rusher. Nor do we have Eli Manning. Mark Sanchez will never, ever, ever, be Eli Manning. And you're right, they still needed the luckiest play in NFL history (outside of maybe the Franco Harris "Hail Mary" vs. Oakland in the 70's.)
Bottom line is we're in year 4 and still talking about potential. I don't think all of it falls on Sanchez' shoulders, I think the organization hasn't always done enough to get him to reach his potential. But the way it stands now, he's simply not good enough to win a Super Bowl with.
The D set the tone w/ a LONG TD drive to start the game, the O got it back to w/in a 1 score game and we needed our D to stop Pitt from getting 2 1st downs- they couldn't and we lost mainly b/c of the D. The Giants D got critical stops and gave Eli the ball in OT at the GB 34 in the '07 title game, in '11 the STs set up Eli for the only 2nd half and OT scores they would get w/ fumbled punts.
This week Hill had two guys beat for what could have been a TD, Mark threw it short for a pick. A couple of weeks ago Cro had his guy beat by a mile and Mark threw it out of bounds. He has had guys in position to make big plays...
that happens to every QB every week, Brady left plays on the field too. Mark put us on his back and had us in position to win the gamem the D failed in a big spot yet again.
I hate to admit it, but the Giants, not only in 2007 but even last year have proved that anything is possible and you don't have to be worldbeaters to get deep into the playoffs. I am open to all possibilities, why not? It makes things more interesting.
Dude, c'mon. Sanchez stepped up his game in the playoffs in his first two years, but let's not go crazy now.
Eli & Burress torched Al Harris (when he was at or near the top of his game) in that game. This was also done in freezing temperatures. Eli outplayed Favre in Green Bay in freezing weather and you're going to argue that it was because of the defense, on a night in which the passrush was pretty much a nonfactor, and special teams (on a night when Tynes missed 2 chip shot FGs in regulation) won that game? Really, junc?
I didn't say he sucked but did his D not set him up for the GW FG? Outside of Burress absolutely dominating Eli didn't do much else. Plax had 151 of Eli's 251 pass yds, that was more Plax than Eli. Eli was good in that postseason, Eli was really good last year but in both title games he was set up in OT by TOs for the GW FGs.
