No, you got banned for continuing to derail a thread after I specifically warned about it being derailed. And now you can take another, longer break for several issues.
It's just unfortunate. I really want him to succeed to shut up all these uber negative Jet fans. Similar to how Eli was about to be run out of town. Certainly doesn't help having him do all what he does in the same building, but I'm glad for him. I just want the same for my team.
Meanwile Ponder threw for 58 yards Flacco completed 20 something passes for a 140 get a grip, Sanchez is far from trash
I am amazed at the idiocy in this thread and the complete lack of knowledge of most fans on this board. If you blame Sanchez for yesterday's loss, you know nothing about football and did not watch the same game as I did. Sanchez was tremendous in the second half - 16-20 for 196 yards and a TD. He brought the team back from a 9 point deficit and a 10 point deficit and handed the team a lead with under 2 minutes left. Every QB makes mistakes. When you handle the ball 65+ times a game, mistakes happen. But when people can't tell the difference between a QB's mistake and someone else's and between a smart play and a stupid play this board becomes hopeless. There were multiple plays and decisions that cost the Jets this game. Sanchez made one- ONE - bad mistake and that was the underthrown pass to Hill that was intercepted and that was a PHYSICAL error and not a mental one. He didn't throw the pass well. Sanchez led the Jets to an opening drive TD, then the special teams gives up a kickoff return TD. The Jets return the next kickoff to the 45 yard line, but a holding penalty puts the ball on the 10 and a punt gives the Pats the ball on their own 45 yard line and Brady leads the Pats to a TD with the short field. The safety was 100% the fault of Slauson, who got blown up on the play and was in the way of a simple handoff. Sanchez made a good play by keeping that to 2 points rather than 7. Let's blame the play calling also. The Jets have a 250 pound running QB who scored bushels of TDs in college running the ball. With the ball on the 2 yard line at 3rd and 1 why isn't he in the game running the ball? Why throw a slant to Schillens in that key spot? He can't catch a cold and the ball hit him in the hands. The Hill drop was huge. Nothing to blame Sanchez for there. Hill makes that catch and game might be over. The Jets take some time off the clock and put the ball in the end zone and the Pats have a hard time driving the field with little or no time left. The play calling after the fumbled return was awful. With 2:01 on the clock on first down, why not call a pass and try to score or move the ball inside the 10? The clock is stopping anyway. TDs are needed to beat NE, not FGs. The 3rd down roll out and sack before the go ahead FG was without question the smart play. If the pass is not there, you go down and keep the clock running and force a NE time out. The last thing Sanchez should have done was try to force a pass or throw it away and stop the clock. When all is said and done, with all of those mistakes, Sanchez handed the defense a 3 point lead with 1:40 left and the D let the Pats go down the field so easily it was a joke. I don't care how well or badly a defense plays for 58 minutes. When a defense is handed a lead with less than two minutes left, the D has to get a stop to win the game. Even with all of that, Brady made a boneheaded play at the end of regulation by trying to hit Lloyd in the end zone. If Cromartie finds that pass it is a pick and then Brady is the one making the "bonehead" mistake. Then in OT, the defense came up small again. If the Pats D doesn't hold Jason Hill on the final drive, Sanchez might have hit him for the game winning TD. Without the hold, he was going to be wide open. As for the final play, two Patriot defenders were on Sanchez in a heartbeat. Where was the protection? Yes Sanchez has to try to tuck the ball in, but that was a jail break. As for those who say other QBs don't make mistakes like Sanchez did, didn't Brady fumble on a sack to end the playoff game two years ago? Eli Manning couldn't get out of his own way yesterday, but was fortunate enough that the Redskins defense let Cruz get behind him. Eli didn't make a play as much as the Skins blew it. If we make a list of the reasons why the Jets lost, Sanchez is way down the list. If you make a list of the reasons the Jets had a late lead, Sanchez is on top of that list. The fan that does not understand the game blames the QB for every loss. There are many many Jets fans that have nothing more than a basic understanding of football. When you don't understand what is going on and understand that 11 players have a job to do on each play and if one makes a mistake, the play breaks down. I have been going to Jets games for 45 years and all I hear every time the offense is stopped or the offense struggles is a call for the back up QB or a call for the QB to be released or replaced. Sanchez is an average QB who can win if the team around him plays well and is a QB who has shown over and over that he can come up big at the end of games. The past two seasons have not been his best, but he is not the main reason for the Jets 11-12 record in 2011-12. It is time people realized that.
i saw the game and didnt think sanchez was "tremendous" at all. numerous poor decisions poorly thrown balls and lousy ball security - he was sanchez - an average at best nfl qb.
The guy missed 13 passes the whole game from the top of my head i can recall 3 drops, Chaz, Stephen Hill and Greene and 1 great defensive play in the endzone So how the hell does just 9 missed passes, roughly only 25% of his attempts, qualifies as "numerous" poor decisions or poorly thrown balls? Burn him for the fumble if you want, but he played well (Not saying he is an above average QB, but he played an above average game)
This!!!!! As if Sanchez is the only QB who has bad games once in a while. There's like six of them who don't.
im glad someone else can see it. he threw a number of completed balls terribly also. jwws you have to blame sanchez for putting the ball on greenes shoulder instead of in his stomach, it was way off, not even close to where it should have been. then to watch the little douche on the sideline making it seem like he didnt do anything wrong... he was bad after the first drive of the game for the entire first half. he was average at best and at times looked like he was just god awfully terrible. he is possibly the weakest link on this team even after it has been ravaged by injuries.
After watching Eli, Rodgers, Peyton, and Brady this year, there's probably only Brees who hasn't had a bad game yet if I remember correctly. But there are different levels of bad. Sanchez's bad is a Rodger's terrible. But yeah, no QB goes perfect every game, but if you only watch highlights a lot of QBS play perfect every week.
^Brees vs Carolina with that pick six from his own ~5 yard line that was pretty funny. He kinda roughed it that day with 1 TD 2 INT in a loss.
Not numerous poor decisions. 2 or 3 poo decisions. he played good yesterday. The rainbow the threw to Kerley on that corner route was a beautiful throw. Dropped it in the bucket right over the DB and away from the safety. He saw the cover 2, Kerley went to the right spot and Sanchez made a great throw. That was probably his best play of the game. To contrast, the deep out/corner to Keller in the second half was a bad throw. If Sanchez doesn't put it high, Keller can get up the sideline for 8 or 10 yards. he was sailing passes yesterday and that limited YAC. I agree he is average overall, but yesterday he was better than that. The problem is he can't play at that level all the time. And even if he did play at that level all the time, he still wouldn't be a top 8 QB.
I went a little wacko during the Texan game and blamed it on him at the very end. I calmed down from that and the actual real truth is that Sanchez is no where near as bad as some of you make him sound and he is also not as great as others make him sound. The truth is in the middle . As far as yesterday he had very little (and I mean LITTLE) help from the coaching staff. That game was very winnable if only form a coaching stand point. If Sporano decides to run green twice or tebow twice on the 3rd and 2 from the Houston 3, then we would not be talking about how bad Sanchez sucked today because there would have been no overtime. success and failure in the NFL is a razor thing line. There are a lot of factors involved involved in a win or a loss.
I read somewhere at the beginning of the season that Mark was not using the correct footwork on throws according to Trent Dilfer. Now take that with a grain of salt because that is what I did, but I always wonder if on some of his duck passes that he had if he still throws the ball with poor mechanics. It sucks that nobody would take the job from Matt Cavanaugh. I know that he made some plays but he is always good for the 3-4 dumb plays a game. Its nice to see Kerley and Keller stepping up and Hill has made some plays despite the dropped pass. I specifically remember one comeback route where he gained 5 yards of separation on a very sharp cut. He has the physical talent to be a great receiver. Would love it if the team can get someone to go opposite Hill with Kerley in the slot.
Sanchez's mechanics are horrible. Add in his skittishness in the pocket and you end up with a terrible completion percentage and numerous off target throws. His throws are often too early or too late. How many plays yesterday did he not even see wide open receivers that were waving frantically that they were open? He's got the physical tools to be successful, but he's gotta pull his head out of his ass. That said, the Jets blew that game yesterday. They can't handle success. If they bought a winning lottery ticket they'd promptly wash it along with their jeans.
He had 3 bone headed plays that contributed to this loss. 1. The mishandling of the handoff that resulted in the safety 2. The I don't even know how to describe it lame duck interception 3. Taking the sack that resulted in the fumble to end the game He also handed the Patriots a win on a silver platter. You said it yourself....the difference between a smart play and a stupid play. Yes, every QB does make mistakes....it just so happens Sanchez makes mistakes at the worst possible moments. Throwing up that pic for no reason? stupid play Taking a sack on the final drive in OT? stupid play And that's what we get from Sanchez on a consistent basis....stupid play after stupid play. No, there were 4 HUGE mistakes. But back to the throw...a physical error and not a mental error? Let's see what Mark was thinking here. "Oh shit, my guy is wide open....lemme pump fake it!" "Oh shit, he's not open anymore....lemme throw it anyway!" How the hell is that not mental? Yeah yeah....woe is Sanchez and his unreliable defense and special teams. The same defense that held the Pats to 3 points in the 4th quarter. What did the Jets offense do in the 4th quarter with 5 possessions? They scored 1 touchdown and two field goals....with one of those field goals coming after the drive started on the NE 18. No, it was a simple handoff and he screwed it up. Put the damn ball in the pocket and at worst it's a loss of yards on the play. Is Sanchez a baby who can't check out of a play? Any GOOD QB in the league would have changed the play at the line if he saw something he could have taken advantage of. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Sanchez could have also thrown a pick on the very next play. When the coaches have no trust in the ball security abilities of their QB with the game on the line, there isn't much else you can do there. Since when is turning a chip shot into a 40+ yarder a "smart play". Throw the ball away you idiot. If the kicker would have missed, you'd be blaming him and not your boy toy Sanchez, amirite? Holding Tom Brady to two FG's to actually keep us alive in the game was a great job. If the Jets....no. If Mark Sanchez wanted to make a statement, he would have led a touchdown drive in OT. So now you're blaming the Patriots for playing defense? Is that the new Mark Sanchez excuse? "But X team played defense, so Sanchez had a bad game. If they didn't play any D, Mark would have a good game!" That's basically what you're saying. He had time to either secure it or get rid of it. His problem is his brain can't think that fast. So you're comparing our QB...who has won NOTHING, to Super Bowl winning QB's? Here's a hint. Those guys can get a pass from time to time because they are proven winners. And not just "4 playoff games". They have TITLES. And if Eli doesn't make the perfect pass, does it matter if the Redskins blew coverage? Probably not...get what I'm saying? If that was Sanchez, he woulda pump faked it, then thrown it into the seats somewhere. I'm sorry to hear you have been suffering for 45 years. It's not all on the QB, but blindly defending him when he is clearly part of the problem and not the solution will not help things. Is there any "average" QB that can't? Glad to know we spent a 5th on Trent Dilfer.
It comes down to one play. He put the ball on Hills hands. If Hill makes the catch, he beats McCourty to the pylon, and this thread is about ANOTHER Mark Sanchez 4th quarter comeback. How many times does it need repeating.....after 3years of Schitty (and how is Bradford looking these days) and 7 games in a new system, without any stability for the first 4 weeks at the receiver position...what's a reasonable expectation? And fwiw....the holding call on the pass play to Jason Hill should have been PI. Mark had him for Six.
Here here said it before...Sanchez is soft west coast material. I wanted Flacco. Give me hard east coast every time or talented south. We trade Sanchez to a west coast team, draft a QB and see if Tebow is worth keeping as well. The OL needs 3-4 starters. 2 WR and 1 DE and 3 LB
Flacco? I remember wanting McNair. I remember wanting Young. I remember wanting Cutler. But never Flacco. Never ever.
Do you watch Flacco consistently? He has had better offensive weapons and defense than Sanchez and has Samchez like struggles. His highs are higher than Sanchez but his lows are much lower. Remember his team has won playoff games with him throwing 32 and 40 percent in those games. If people actually believe we won in spite of Sanchez in the playoffs then the ravens won those playoff games with flacco playing for the other team.
