The trigger finger was definitely itchy, I hear ya. The Patriots stole this one, I'll absolutely concede that. The Jets played a better game for the most part and held NE's offense to 20 points. The Pats were very fortunate to get the W. Not the type of game, as a fan, you feel too great about, win or lose.
It doesn't matter, if the playcalling was better at that point the clock operator screwing us doesn't matter. The way Sanchez was throwing the ball with the 2 minute warning on the other end and the Pats reeling a bit a shot at the endzone should have been the playcall. It wouldn't have mattered if the pass was incomplete as the 2 minute warning would have stopped the clock anyway.
Exactly. I noted that in my earlier post. No idea why the Jets didn't try to throw there. Not only would it have done the same as running into the line, but if they got down to the doorstep it would have been a morally deflating sequence of plays. There were some on the flip-side of that too. The Pats' drive after the Jets tied it up was a good example. Offensive PI on Lloyd (another crap call, but hey, they went both ways) puts the Pats at 2nd-and-20 and they run it? My memory may be a bit off but lots of bone-headed play calls by both sides.
See I didn't think Cromartie interfered but I am in the minority (at least on this site) that the flag on Wilson in OT was 100% correct even if the wrong official made the call. He definately grabbed Hernandez and influenced the play.
It wasn't Davis, I thought it was Allen. I know the play, they showed Bellore and called him for it but he wasn't even near the play. His reaction on the sideline was priceless though.
yup it sickens me that so many pats fans troll our forum like they top dog on the block or something. we run this shit now
I think we just have no good luck. Seems like everything always goes against us. Even this fumble recovery. If we had any luck we win the game there. If Hill catches that ball we win the game. Without that PI call from the official a quarter of the way down the field we probably win the game. If that fumble at our one yard line goes our way (although, to be fair, I think that was the right call) it's a different game. If Sanchez takes the sack in OT we still have a shot to tie or win the game. I know you can play the 'if game' on anything but it seems to me that it happened a lot more to us than it did to the Pats. I was watching it with my sister who is a Pats fan and pointed it out to her that every "what if" play/or call went the Pats way and she agreed with me. She didn't really care because her team was still walking away with a W but she at least acknowledged that her team was getting 90% of the lucky breaks. The one lucky break we got all game was that fumble recovery and even that screwed us up.
On a kickoff, The clock is supposed to start when he catches it guys not when he kicks it. That said, the 2:00 should have expired....
24 hours later and I still think we got fucked, and no Pats fan is going to convince me otherwise. We should have overcome it with better execution, play calling etc., but we should also be playing on a level field. Nothing to do about it now except focus on Miami.
Problem was that the facemask occurred AFTER the kick and we should've retained possession. Instead, they ruled that it occurred BEFORE the kick and the Pats retained possession with 15 yards tacked on. The D held, but the Pats shouldn't have been given another possession there.
What are you trying to say? That a player can't take 4 steps in a second? Let's look: [YOUTUBE]WlRgjrHydXY[/YOUTUBE] In the video that I just embedded, McCourty catches the ball at the goal line at exactly 8.733 seconds (from the start of the video). The gameclock says 2:06. When the gameclock drops to 2:05 (signifying that exactly one second has elapsed since the operator started the clock), McCourty is just about to pass the 5 yard line: At that point the video is at exactly 9.867 seconds... meaning that exactly 1.134 seconds has elapsed since McCourty caught the ball. Do the math, and what this all means is that clock operator started the clock exactly 0.134 seconds later than he "should have" in a perfect world. If I had a better framerate on my video, that number might actually be less. How many people here honestly expect me to believe that they noticed a difference of 0.134 seconds as they were watching the game? How many people honestly believe that clock operators are even capable of better accuracy than that? This is seriously the stuff that you guys choose to whine about?
The clock operator had a quick trigger finger. 99% of the time that clock ticks to two minutes. Just like the ref 30 yards away had a quick trigger finger. It isn't the reason the Jets lost, but sucks to think that what usually happens didn't happen for us.
Jets Officiating Conspiracy Personally, I think we usually get the short end of the stick, when it comes to bad calls from the Referees. I'm just going to state things from the last game vs the Patriots as an example. 1- The Td pass to Gronkowski that was reviewed & confirmed so fast, that as a viewer you didn't even get to look at the replay 2 times. After they confirmed the td a replay was shown where the ball was not secured until he was out of bounds. Bad call 2- The Hernandez fumble was reviewed and the explanation was he was down due to his ARM being down... If having a arm down means a player is down then the stats are so screwed. 3- The late penalty against Kyle Wilson came from the wrong ref with worse position to make a judgmental call. This was a crucial call that extended the Pats drive. Horrible call from the wong ref. 4- Last play a defender is on Sanchez ankles, and if it was brady the refs would've thrown the flag in a heartbeat. Why the hypocrisy? (Conspiracy) In my opinion remember the replacement refs? Remember our great owner had voted to keep the replacements vs bringing in the old zebras who were out of a contract? The refs prob hate Woody bcuz he was hurting their pockets. Woody voting to keep replacements refs is public info. Now knowing that our owner voted against the same refs who call the games now, explains why some if the old refs might be going against us. I think the voting should have been private as now it's an integrity issue. Also the Krafts and Maras are loved by the football elite, and imo get the benefit of the calls consistently. Am I crazy Jet fan? Maybe bcuz to be a Jet fan you have to be a little crazy
Should have been about 1:58 or 1:57. The clock operator froze the clock for at least three seconds. Home field advantage.
I wouldnt say conspiracy just we were on the wrong end of the calls. The PI on wilson was terrible. I think there should be some sort of rule saying you have to be X amount of yards to the play to throw a flag. how can a ref throw a flag on a play 25yds away but a ref 2yds doesn't and this isnt a knee jerk reaction i have always thought there should be such a rule. But no not a conspiracy
fixed seem strong cause we were in a place to win. but i think the pats got benefit of doubt on many calls, for pats fans not to acknowledge it and question the crediblity of their record is patently absurd
Historically, Jets have been screwed by officials against better teams because the organization has little or no status in the NFL. Being a place mat for over 40 years does not have its advantages. Jets did get a key call against Seahawks in playoffs when Parcells was coach. Good coaches and good teams get the calls - bad ones don't.
