Changing of the guard...finally!

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by klecko73, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. klecko73

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    There are a couple changes going on with the Jets that have occurred over the past few weeks that should be encouraging to Jets fans.

    First, we finally saw Coples, Davis and Maybin on the field alot more over the past couple of weeks than they were the first 4 weeks of the season. There are two benefits to this - #1 they are on the field more and #2 Scott, Pace and Thomas are on the field less.

    Second, the Jets made a personnel move that made sense in cutting Connor. Hilliard has been a big addition to the run offense over the past two weeks. Connor never progressed from his rookie year and basically has coasted ever since. Hilliard is faster, has better hands and can actually block.

    As fans, we may underestimate these moves but they are really big shake-up moves. Despite all the false bravado, Rex is finally realizing that production, not reputation, is what counts in the NFL. My guess is that he is finally starting to feel the heat and as a result has been ramping up the pressure and finally making football decisions. The fact of the matter is that there are a lot of sacred cows on this team that have not hand any accountability since 2010. They lived off of reputation after two back-to-back AFCC games and coasting ever since.

    The Connor cut was an important first step in the process. I would love to see the Jets just eat Scott's salary the rest of the year and cut him is well. He has been an unmitigated disaster this year and the primary reason Harris has not played well at all. Scott was supposed to do the dirty work in blowing up blocks to free up Harris and he simply has not delivered.

    The Jets have a lot of salary tied up in players not producing. It is time for a change and I hope that Rex continues with the new trend of the past two weeks throughout the rest of the year.
     
  2. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    I disagree with your post. Scott has been solid this year, and the pressence of the older LB's makes the transition smoother for the young guys. We were saying during the off season that we expected the young guys to get increased snaps as the season progressed and to this point, that's exactly what's going on.
     
  3. klecko73

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    Scott is the primary reason the Jets run defense has been horrendous. His role in the defense is to take out and blow up the lead blocker - be it a FB or TE or Guard - to free up Harris to make the tackle. Scott has clearly been a step too slow this year, been out of position, and can't beat his man which is why Harris has been so bad and the run D terrible.
     
  4. The 1985er

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    Harris is the Jets leading tackler so he can't be THAT bad.
     
  5. roboz08

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    Apparently nobody but me saw Scott make a pass deflection with his back turned to the QB last week. I still don't know how the hell he managed to put his left hand up at exactly the right time, my guess is luck? (their was a flag on the play)
     
  6. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Scott is horrible, ne even makes Harris look bad because he has to cover more ground and make every tackle, I agree cut him next
     
  7. BrowningNagle

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    I don't understand the desire to drop Scott. I'm not saying he's been playing great because he hasn't, but he's the best option at the moment. After the season they can look for an upgrade, but the defense would look worse without him at the moment. Why drop him so the LB corp will suck even more. - The grass isn't always greener!

    The difference between this situation and Conner is that there was a capable alternative in Hilliard (and Conner is hurt)
     
  8. NYJet87

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    Scott has been horrendous. But still, you can't cut him. For what it's worth, I've never been as unimpressed with Harris as I am this year as well. Past years, I've raved about him, not so much this year.
     
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    We're already low of depth and cutting Scott at our weakness in defense is just not logical
     
  10. HardHitta

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    Yeah Coples needs to continue to start and Demario needs more field time, they add speed that we don't have. As for Harris, i think he's been pretty good.
     
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    i saw that. if you get a chance to watch it again,i think he saw the shadow of the ball.i could be wrong but thats how it looked to me
     
  12. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    Bart Scott has played a lot better this season than he did last year. Calvin pace outside of week 1 has been awful.
     
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    Actually, Scott has played better this season & I think he's been more of a plus than minus. Before the season started I wanted Bart gone no matter what but now I'm open to offering him a cheap contract for 1-2 years ... something a little bit more than vet minimum. He's shown some smarts on the field & really made me think he can contribute enough to justify a roster spot.

    Not too sure if Scott should start but I'd be comfortable having him as a fallback plan in case the Jets can't field enough young talent to totally turnover the LB core in one offseason. Plus, let's not forget that it's likely both safeties will also be gone next season. That's a lot of holes to plug in for just one offseason.
     
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    That was some ninja shit......
     
  15. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    I really think that is because Scott is always out of position and harris tries to cover too much area
     
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    It was a good play. But its nothing spectacular. The secondary does this on most of the plays. They read the receiver and act accordingly.
     
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    I think he has a rear-view helmet cam.
     
  18. Jets-N-Terps

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    He saw the receiver put his hands out to make the catch. When he did, Bart put up his hand in front of where the receiver was going to catch it...great veteran play.
     
  19. chris5533

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    I agree, I don't think Scott is playing half as bad as everyone thinks. Defensive line is terrible so far. He's not free to do what he has to because of such. I think Pace is clearly not playing up to standard. I'd rather see maybin take those snaps, our run defense coudnt be any worse. Let's get him as many reps as possible and see if he can be an every down player.
     
  20. Big Blocker

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    I don't see the complaints about Scott in the run D. The problem before the Colts game was more on the line, with first DeVito hurt, and then as much as I have been a Pouha fan, inconsistent play from him apparently due to his back hurting, and mediocre play by Ellis. But this past week, putting aside the factor of a weak effort by the Colts, the main difference was DeVito at NT, which proved to be a big help in the run D. He can play there, and imo so far this year has given the Jets their best performance at NT.

    Scott actually had a good game, let alone a not horrendous one, against Indy. Did any of his critics actually see the game? He was taking on lead blockers and doing his job, and succeeded defending that pass play. In fact he looked stronger than Harris to me.

    As for the LB's as a group, I am frankly disappointed in Pace the last few games. He's been playing on the line more than I anticipated, but still, he's been a non-factor in the pass rush lately. His contract still dictates his being on this year's roster, but more games like the Colts one and you can count on him not being back next year.
     

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