Breaking news, Mark Sanchez had the top QBR among AFC QB's yesterday with an 86.6 rating. Tom Brady had 36 completions for 395 yards but somehow he had a worse day than Sanchez's 11 completions for 82 yards. I think it's pretty clear that QBR doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know by looking at turnovers and final score. It's a waste of a statistic because it doesn't measure a QB's performance on an even scale. There's no way you can measure a guy who threw 58 passes against a guy who threw 18 passes and come out with anything of value at all in terms of an efficiency rating or anything else. They didn't do the same job. So here's to you Shonn Greene for your major contribution to Mark Sanchez QBR yesterday! He couldn't have done it without you.
QBR is the most worthless stat ever, it is extremely skewed. All you have to do is win and you get a high QBR.
I saw ESPN special when they introduced QBR. The idea was that QBR measures QBs decision-making & has little to do with total yards or number of completions. According to ESPN, each play is evaluated from standpoints of " (1) Did QB make the best possible decision under the circumstances and (2) how well did he execute this decision" If you look at it this way, Brady's decision-making was pretty poor yesterday while Sanchez's was pretty good. Just to save you some typing: perhaps it was because Sanchez didn't have many decisions to make... but wouldn't it be the result of good game planning?
Who cares about QBR anyway? If you win it helps a lot. 2 TDs to 0 Int helps a lot. Over 60% completion. Just because he didn't attempt a lot of throws doesn't make those first 3 change so the QBR will be high. Best way to rate a QB is the eyeball test. Sanchez played well yesterday though he did what he needed to get the win. The run game was amazing so why bother throw a lot with Sanchez. Used him in the red zone when the D was off balanced and he got it done.
The point is that it's on a per-play basis. Sanchez made plays in the red zone when he had to and didn't make any mistakes. Brady made a couple bad mistakes that cost the Patriots. NFL QB rating has Sanchez at 109.0 and Brady at 79.3. Obviously they didn't do the same job. Brady threw the ball 3 times more. As a result, in the total season QBR, Brady's 58 passes are weighted 3 times more. Any non-fantasy QB rating system will have Sanchez ahead of Brady because Sanchez threw 2 TDs and didn't make any mistakes. On the flip side, if Sanchez DID make any mistakes, it would count a lot more because of the lack of passes he threw. This is why ALL stats rely on sample size to get a more accurate reading. Isn't that the QB's job, to win games? Yet after games like the Cowboys game last year, when Sanchez made a number of dumb plays in the 2nd half that could have cost us the game, the board flipped out that he was rated poorly, even though we won. It's not that simple. It's about making winning plays. Sanchez made winning plays while the game was still in doubt.
Skip is on First Take right now saying how "Brady played fine". Had Sanchez had the same stats they'd be calling for his head. What a joke.
most times stats are pretty misleading but yesterday those numbers had it right. Sanchez didn't make ANY mistake and played flawlessly, Brady looked like an old man trying to play a young man's game. I'm surprised the QBR differential wasn't higher
QBR was made up so espn can have another talking point...it is really stupid regardless of the QBR, mark made most from his completions. would i like to see him get chunks of yards, absolutely but lets build up his confidence and get the ball rolling
The only people who make QBR relevant are the ones who invented it and that's ESPN and their talking heads. Aside from them, no one really cares about it, or uses it. In fact, I'll go as far to say that anytime any of their announcers, analysts, etc. uses Quarterback rating over their QBR system while on-the-air, probably gets yelled at afterwards.
QBR is a joke, he's had low ones when he hasn't deserved it too. Pleasse watch the games, you'll be able to evaluate better than using fantasy stats.
One stat stands out, and that completion percentage. Sanchez's has never been high, but now it's at an all-time low. He's completed less than half his passes this year through six games. That's pretty bad. Talk about dropped passes, lack of WRs, or anything else, but that's still very bad. It doesn't tell the whole story, but it says something. If you are going to look at stats at all, you look at completion %, INT-to-TD ratio, yards-per-attempt, and things like that. If a guy hangs around long enough in this league, the less chance most of these stat lie. I don't know who dreamed up this QR rating scheme. You can talk about how the only stat that matters is Ws all you want, but that doesn't necessarily speak to the quality of play of one cog in the wheel. Sanchez has made his fair share of clutch plays, but in the big year for that, 2010, Santonio Holmes made those plays happen in the regular season more than Sanchez, really. You can't hang your hat on that, nor keep repeating about being in 2 Championship games. Sanchez doesn't have any magical playoff quality that you can rely on...gotta get there first, anyway. Sanchez needs to play better...no excuses.
ESPN Employee #1: Hey check this out, I've designed this QBR system. It has Charlie Batch and Jamarcus Russell ranked pretty high for All-Time Best games. ESPN Employee #2: LOL! ESPN Employee #1: I should go back and reconsider some of the metrics. ESPN Employee #2: Or we could just troll fans by releasing this garbage to generate page hits ESPN Employee #2: LOL! ESPN Employee #1: LOLOLOL!
The same people that dreamed up WAR and all the other goofy new-age baseball stats that say a guy who won the Triple Crown on a division winner doesn't deserve the MVP lol.
I believe that you have employees of ESPN watch every play and decide the variables that make QBR. How is this objective as it has human variables put in? If anyone's knows more on this as maybe QBR is a formula like the regular QB stat let me know. Would be most appreciated.
QBR was a failed attempt that ESPN made of measuring QB play from every angle. But they still force the stat down your throat because ESPN WILL get their point across...
Be honest. After watching Brady over the last 2 years failing to get it done, missing clutch throws even with the SB on the line, playing not to get hit against the Cards at home, playing like a broken old man on the decline Sunday in Seattle.... If you had the chance to pick your franchise QB for the next 10 years, who would you pick? Tom Brady or Mark Sanchez? Those are your only choices. I bet all my V-money Belicheck would grab Sanchez in a NE heart beat.
Yeah, for the next 10 years. Just trying to look ahead as our #1 nemesis Tom Brady starts to show his age, starts to show some cracks. None more so then when Sanchez beat Brady in the playoffs 2 yrs ago. Mark has pretty much been Mark since he got here. Hasn't changed much. Brady, the better QB, is showing signs of decline...losing games he'd never have lost in the past. Sooner or later their charts will cross...even if Sanchez never gets a bit better. How soon?
