Brainlessly bash former Jet employee, Brian Schottenheimer

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  1. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    the rams dont have the worst NFL offense right now for nothing. they make us look decent right now
     
  2. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    I am talking about the Schotty Haters. Many of them said RIGHT OFF THE BAT that there would be a huge turnaround just because Schotty was gone. They were wrong.

    As for going forward, I have no reason to think Sparano will make a good OC, but I fully agree I cannot say now, or do I want to, that he has already shown that he will suck at this job. The piont instead is that the Jet O will not do much this year BECAUSE OF THE ROSTER, not because of who the OC is.

    That's the whole point. Too many refused to believe that the problems on O were mostly about lack of talent. That was true last year. It is clear this year, too. THe only difference is the Schotty Haters know they can't blame schotty anymore.
     
  3. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Not for nothing, but I prefer the downfield throwing that has happened this season to the "Mulligan Shift" that we frequently got under Schotty.

    Anyway, I'd say from last season to this season the offense has actually regressed. The collapse of the running game in particular has exposed the offense to be overwhelmingly untalented.

    Maybe this is a defense for Schotty but I would argue not. Even in the best years under Schotty the Jets were never a top offense. His most talented offenses were underachievers.

    It's too early to judge what Sparano is because clearly the shit is hitting the fan right now. The Jets made a mistake relying on Stephen Hill to adequately fill the #2 role and to trust the current crop of Jets running backs to be good enough for true "ground and pound".

    I don't see any way in which Schotty still being here would've made things any better.
     
  4. Brunell's Debt

    Brunell's Debt New Member

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    In Schottenheimer's (sort of) defense, I'm not convinced that Sam Bradford is much better than Mark Sanchez.

    I'm certainly not suggesting that the Jets should have kept Schotty around, but it's a little unrealistic to expect him to walk into that garbage fire at the Edward Jones Dome and produce instant success.
     
  5. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Plus the Rams are 3-2 and just beat a 4-0 team in the Cards. I credit mostly Fisher, but Schotty is part of the new regime, too.

    But the main subject here is the Jets. Schotty leaving has not helped. The Jet O is totally putrid right now.

    Tanny is the one who should have been blamed as the main culprit not just this year, but also last year.
     
  6. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    That's a very fair argument.
     
  7. WildDuckCT

    WildDuckCT Active Member

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    Shotty is in no way related to the lack of running game we've seen so far. Can blame him for not passing downfield more often to loosen up defense, and for being predictable, but the running game this year would stink no matter who we had for an offensive coordinator.
     
  8. BleednGreen247

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    The Rams have a shittier offense than the Jets this year where the Jets have 0 talent and just got shutout.

    Schoddy is a terrible football mind.
     
  9. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    the schotty hate is one of those things.. everyone needs someone to blame. it was always schotty, then he left it was wayne hunter, now its sanchez.

    remember how much everyone hated paul hackett? and before him ted cottrell? they hated hackett 10 times more than schotty. hackett proved himself out to be a bad OC and a bad HC and just bad in general.

    next year there will be someone else. there will never be nobody to blame.
     
  10. displacedfan

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    According to Cimini they have lower TD percentage per possession than us, including our shutout game. That was going into this week I believe
     
  11. WildDuckCT

    WildDuckCT Active Member

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    Sparano is going to be hated on fairly soon if he can't figure out how to integrate Tebow into the offense.
     
  12. mute

    mute Well-Known Member

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    The RAMS have just started to play with Schotty. Can we wait for a year or two to see what happens before we continue to go crazy?
     
  13. LongIslandLou

    LongIslandLou New Member

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    Maybe Shottenheimer wasn't as bad as I thought. When both QB's aren't looking good the common denominator is the coaches
     
  14. displacedfan

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    That was my point, only one penalty that whole time when we were down by one possession. The time in game that most people had problem with all the throws.

    People are always going to complain, but I think it's fair to say Schotty didn't have best of gameplans and got away from an effective run game that day. I'd rather lose because our strength that day failed us, than lose because we were trying to surprise the oppoenent and surprised ourselves too often.

    Schotty usually had trouble sticking with what was working. He always wanted to be one step ahead which is a good strategy when you don't have elite offense. You need to use element of surprised. But when we had an elite run game going, we went away from it too often to keep the team off guard. There has to be something to being so good at something, to do it everytime until a team stops it
     
  15. Cidusii

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    Schotty had his huge downfalls on offense with his complex playcalling and trying to confuse his own team while the other team knew what was being run.

    It looks like Sparano's downfall is he doesn't know how to utilize Tebow effectively to continue drives rather than set them back for the most part. If you bring in Tebow, it has to be for more than one play. Otherwise, you're killing Sanchez's rhythm while bringing in a QB who hasn't built up any yet.
     
  16. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

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    After seeing that ****show from Sparano in the fourth quarter, some servings of crow might be in order. For a guy that was a head coach in this league the offense didn't look like they had a clue what they were doing and those wasted timeouts cost us one last chance at the end.
     
  17. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Well, Schitt's O did its thing down in Miami amassing 460 yards of offense but just one TD in a crappy loss that did us no favors.
     
  18. GRNYT

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    Gee i thought it was all schottenheimer's fault

    I mean really how stupid do some of you look now with ur way over the top scapegoating bs last year?

    :rolleyes:
     
  19. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    We're Jets fans.

    We're used to looking stupid.
     
  20. MowTin

    MowTin Active Member

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    Yep. We're missing shotty now. I still have no idea why they thought Sparano was a good choice.
     

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