Excuses, Excuses, and more excuses. None of those cure the fact that we don't have a real QB. Sanchez has no pocket presence, gets scared when he feels pressure, throws his passes behind his WR's or overthrows them constantly, double and triple pumps before making his throws, has zero read progression, telegraphs his throws and has subpar deep ball strength and his accuracy suffers because lack of arm strength. Also has no touch on passes, throws his balls way too hard when WR's are running simple slant patterns inside of 10 yards. The INT he threw against Miami that should've cost us that game was inexcusable. He never shpould have made that throw. Just a microcosm of how bad his play is overall. I could go on and on. Instead of talking about all of the other players on the roster you need to focus on the QB and give an honest evaluation of his play. Right now he is one of the worst starting QB's (stats wise and eye test) in the NFL. Fact. If the Jets want to win they need a new QB along with many of the other things you've listed. The QB is the most important position on the field so we need to focus on that before addressing any other need.
The NFL is a team sport. Fact. There are elite quarterbacks out there who don't win, even with better talent than Sanchez has to work with. Changing quarterbacks won't solve anything. The Jets have much deeper personnel issue. This team can't be fixed in one offseason.
I can give you QB's who are winning as much as Sanchez this year with much LESS talent than the Jets. Last year as well. See Andy Dalton for reference. The bengals were an awful team the year before last. Amazing how a 2nd round rookie QB with only one playmaker and an awful O Line could take his team to the playoffs last year, isnt it? Meanwhile Sanchez has 3 Pro Bowlers on his O Line and they collapsed down the stretch because of their QB. How about all of those critiques of Sanchez that I made? Do you not believe that he possesses all of those flaws that I pointed out? It's obviously a team problem. However that team is made up of individual players. Those players can damage the team permanently. Our QB is damaging this team.
name one offensive player anywhere neara s good as AJ Green? he also has good Rbs, a good pass catching TE and an overall good group of WRs. Try again please.
It's obvious that he hasn't. The only guys on this board who don't want to believe that obviously have some ulterior motives for wanting to see an awful QB lead this franchise in Sanchez. It's a shame because those fans are saying they don't want to see the Jets win by accepting the QB's awful play. They also want to say it's a teamwide problem because they don't want to hurt little Mark's feelings lol. This is a business people, if you don't produce then time to cut ties and move on to the next guy who produces. Sanchez is not a producer nor is he a good pro QB. He's not even serviceable.
Again, I already said Dalton had one playmaker and an awful O Line last year and they still made the playoffs. Sanchez and the Jets last year? Hmm their O Line was far superior to the Bengals and yet their QB still couldn't get them to the playoffs. The Jets would love to trade Sanchez for Dalton straight up. Truth hurts.
And next you're going to tell me that Sanchez got to 2 AFC Champ games! That's well in the past now. Non Super Bowl winning coaches and QB's don't get the benefit of their far past successes(more than one season removed) when evaluating their current ability. Currently Sanchez sucks and currently Rex is a good D coordinator. I can tell noone wants to actually debate Mark Sanchez's game to game ability as a QB this year. If we had that argument, then noone could defend Sanchez.
Benson put up similar #s to Greene so how was their OL awful and ours was good? b/c we had 3 PBers?:rofl: More importantly- playoff wins 2009-2011: GB 4 NO 4 NYG 4 NYJ 4 Bal 3 NE 2 Pitt 2 Hou 1 Den 1 Dal 1 Min 1 Chi 1 Ari 1 Sea 1 SF 1
You're right that Sanchez has sucked. You're wrong in that QB play happens in a vacuum. You're arguing from the standpoint that quarterbacks all have equal opportunity and tools. If you believe that then you don't understand football. The game is much more complicated than that. You don't give up on a 25 year old quarterback who has boatloads of potential, has SHOWN that potential before, and is currently mired in a season where all of his weapons are hurt, the running game is doing absolutely nothing to help him, and despite all that he still has led the team to two victories. He can play better but then again so can most of the NFL.
How convenient that you chose the 3 year window that plays into your argument! And actually you added 2011 in there. I didn't realize the Jets won a playoff game after 2011 season? :rofl: Sanchez's last success was 2 seasons ago. Last year and continuing this year he has been god awful.
How many playoff wins did Mark have last year, oh yeah thats right he sucked when the Jets needed him to win. Is Mark gonna have a playoff win this year, not at this rate. But hey he still can throw int's to the D Line.... Get Gino Smith and end this shit show already.....look at what Luck is doing, RG111 etc..... Hell I would trade him to dallas for Romo right now.......
yes, how convienent when discussing the current regime that I actually post #s from the current regime. Crazy, isn't it?
Mark has 4 playoff wins, Tony has 1 and he's played longer and played w/ more talent yet you'd want to trade the QBs?
This! If living in the past is how we evaluate our players, i.e. QB, then I say we go way back and talk about how good the Jets were when Namath was the QB... How about that Super Bowl win!:jets:
Teams that repeatedly start over don't ever win. Further, having high draft picks assures you of nothing.
in the present we were in 1st place heading into this weekend and will still be there if we win tonight. he's won 3 playoff games since Tony Romo won his lone playoff game. Exactly, we still have a quality core of young/entering/in their prime players. No need to do anything silly and blow it up, we need to add talent around them.
Living in the past is saying Joe Namath beat the Colts in SB III and Wayne Chrebet made things happen. Living in the past is not talking about your 4th year starter and what he has done in the last 3 years. Hell Manning's numbers were no better than Sanchez through 4 years. He had a top tier defense that helped hide his flaws. Had Plax in his prime also. Shockey and Barber were there and when they left he won a super bowl, but still had average numbers in 2007.
