If I had to make this decision I would give Sanchez until the End of the Patriots game to show his worth. IF he is still stinking up the place I would admit that I made a mistake with Tebow and let McElroy start the rest of the season to see if he is a capable Qb or Backup. At years end I would release both Sanchez and Tebow and draft a new Franchise QB if there was one available or see what Free Agency holds regarding a stop gap. If there was no Franchise QB available I would address WR, RB, The Aging LB core and general lack of depth across the board. I would try a new strategy of keeping this years picks instead of trading them away for one or two mediocre to good players like Tanny has been doing. I would also hire a football person out of the Steelers or Giants camp to help with draft day decisions as well.
Catfish, you hit the nail on the head. This is how I would handle it as well. Getting rid of Sanchez and/or benching Sanchez, IMHO, is not the right way to go. We've all seen Sanchez perform decently...now if he had a great wideout and a good running tandem behind him, he'd be performing at a higher level. Right now, he doesn't have shit. Plain and simple.
You had to know this was coming. This move reaked of Woody Jonhson from the minute it was made. Woody knows that putting Tebow under center will sell tickets/PSL's and we all know that's the bottom line for him. I may be wrong but to me Woody isn't passionate about winning. I think his comments about being " in the media business" show that he's all about publicity, and we all know the only bad publicity is no publicity. Putting Tebow at QB puts WJ exactly where he wants to be, on the backpage, WIN OR LOSE. It will overshadow the GIANTS, and make the Jets relevant even when they really aren't.
There are two possibilities if you replace Sanchez with Tebow. 1) We get better and start winning. Hurray, we're better. 2) We get worse and go from "bad" to "terrible". Instead of 6-10, we go 4-12. We get a higher draft pick and officially end the Sanchez era in NY. Again, hurray. It's win-win. The only thing you can't have is a 6-10, 7-9 type season in which we blow our draft pick, are never really in the playoff hunt, and once again, perpetuate the myth that Sanchez is a franchise quarterback that we can build around for the future.
I do not think its time to bench sanchez (not yet at all) . But what mistake has been made with tebow ? he has a winning record at every level he has ever played in (including the NFL) . Mcelroy might be better than Tebow running a conventional offense (I am just throwing that out there as Mcelroy is still hoping to accomplish what Tebow already has) but the Jets might need an unconventional offense to make it work. because of the talent at the skill positions , you might need an unconventional offense. Everyone continues to make Tebow sound like the worst QB in history, he has a higher career QB rating than Sanchez does (not bad for a guy that can not throw) . Do you honestly think that if Mcelroy would have been put in the exact situation as Tebow last year in Denver he would have gone 8-5 and won a playoff game as a starter running a conventional offense?
I agree here as well. We need to revamp the entire lineup. By building your team using young rookie players and a few vets, I think you can then insert a QB (even if it's a rookie!) to help you in creating a formidable offensive team. As many posters of this forum have pointed out, this team needs to clean house. Get rid of just about everyone - coaches, GM's, etc. Let's start building from the ground up. It's like any company - you can't create a clean, decent company if it's top tier managers are useless and provide little to no support for those under them...it just doesn't work.
Ok, and how do you intend to handle the cap issues with Sanchez's current contract? Like it or not, this guy is our QB and he'll be around for this season and next season. We CANNOT afford to just "get rid of Sanchez".
The 7-9 season is the worst possible case scenario because the Sanchez got to two afc Championship he needs help story line will make the team lose another three years trying to wait for him to progress.
Who know what Greg could had done with Denver last season. Did u really think Tebow was going to do what he did? Did u really think Andy Dalton would had taken Cin to the playoffs?
The good ending is realizing Sanchez isn't the QB you need. If Tebow starts and fails, you go after a QB, which you would need to do even if Tebow weren't on this team. If Tebow starts and succeeds, you're where the Broncos were at the end of last season. Elway: Tim has earned the right to be the starter going into training camp next year. Then you either go out and find a good current QB to replace him, or draft someone and let him know he's the starter going in, but nothing is guaranteed. And there's always McElroy.
McElroy is the Brady Quinn in this equation. He may be "better" than Tebow in some ways, but with this team, he'd have no shot at being successful.
Obviously he wants Tebow to be put in. He's a fucking scumbag that only cares about filling the seats... And not doing it the right way, through wins, but through circus side show named Tebow that he thinks will attract more people to the game. God I fucking hate this owner. He obviously doesnt truly care about the fans and this teams success as much as he does money... Why should we care about this team then? smh.
He's not the Brady Quinn. Drew Stanton would've been the Brady Quinn. McElroy is a quarterback drafted in the seventh round that, statistically speaking, is more likely to never start a game in his career than he is to ever start a dozen games in a season. I don't think people realize that quarterbacks drafted that late aren't drafted to play. Most aren't even drafted to be developed. They're drafted to run the scout team or guarantee depth in case a team is afraid it may not have a decent backup option going into training camp. That's not to say it's impossible for them to impress and earn a shot, but that's the exception, not the rule. 28 QBs drafted in the 7th round since 2000, 2 of them turned into starters -- and you could make a decent case that they're the 2 worst veteran starters in the NFL (Cassel and Fitzpatrick). Anything is possible, but McElroy as a legitimate QB solution is a major stretch.
Ok. Enough jokes. If Jets bench Sanchez now, WHAT ABOUT NEXT YEAR? Are they fucking stupid? Can't they see THIS?? Jesus fucking Christ. I'm so fed up with people that have no fucking idea what they are talking about. (That is, the Jets front office, mind you.)
Fair enough. Only point was that just as with those who supported Quinn over Tebow last year, anyone supporting McElroy as a legitimate alternative is delusional, IMO. He's the "anyone but Tebow" alternative, and that's about it.
Woody is so lost.. its comical. He was born with silver spoon up his ass. He brings nothing to the table (besides money and press). Hes the worst of the worst. I have a feeling Rex and Woody will have a silent war, cumulating with rex quitting and publicly blasting Woody. :breakdance:
It's really not an issue of Tebow or not-Tebow. The Jet's problems start at the top and filter down to every person on the team. Until the Jet's stop hiring people like Rex Ryan, awarding huge contracts to players like Sanchez, and trying to catch lightning in a bottle, the week to week decisions mean nothing. To be competitive in the NFL you have to have a solid plan and system in place and it takes time to build that system, the Jets are still a helter-skelter organization.
That means T-Bomb failed miserably. Good to see you have a common sense. We've been saying that for some time now.
