Disagree. The Jets had plenty answers for him, hence the Broncos had only 3 offensive points by the time the 4th quarter came up. They were behind by 7 points until Sanchez threw that pick six to Goodman bringing them back into the game. One thing Tebow DOES do well is work his magic against defenses that tend to drop back a bit and go into some sort of a prevent mode. He'll absolutely kill you running the ball if that happens, and there was only one team last year during the regular season that did not make that mistake and kept doing what they did all game instead. That was Kansas City in the final game when the Broncos lost 7 to 3. He's not a bad option for a 4th quarter.... problem is, someone has to keep them in the game up until that point. Cuz his stats for quarters 1-3 are disasterous. His completion percentage is down in the 30s. and his QB rating is usually about two thirds what it ends up being after a pretty good effort at the end. Teams had an answer for him all game long... they just didn't stick with it at the end when trying to run out the clock.
That is what a lot of us wished they would have done in Denver. I have little doubt he'd be successful in ANY position that didn't involve throwing the ball. He's that good of an athlete. A lot of us wanted him inserted at goal line packages and have Orton play between the 20s. Orton was actually pretty good there, just never seemed to be able to punch it into the end zone. Tebow was the opposite. Tough to defend against in the red zone, but trips to the red zone with him between the 20s was few and far in between. Especially when defenses let him try to march down the field with his arm. Take away his legs and contain him, he's no better than an average third stringer passing the ball.
First Mr. Elway, let me thank you for your concern for our NY Jets. It's a rare thing that a executive vice president of football operations shows so much concern for one of their competitors. I'm impressed (cough cough). Second, I prefer Mr. McDaniels opinion of Tim over yours. Sincerely,
Ohhh,,,,well can I say 'BrowningNagle is a Jets fan so the Jets MUST be cool', and I want to be like you, BrowningNagle, pleeeeaaase? (cough cough cough) Umm, just like you, I can say what the fuck I want.
Keep rambling on like a fucking idiot, and perpetuating the Tebow fan stereotype. People like you are the reason regular football fans can't stand Tebow's cult.
Rex Ryan will not switch to Tim Tebow until he absolutely has to, which will be Week 8 against Miami, Week 10 against Seattle or Week 14 against Jacksonville, depending on what happens. If we're 2-5 entering Miami, Tebow will start either the Miami or Seattle game depending on Rex Ryan, unless of course he doesn't start Miami and Sanchez beats Miami and then Tebow will be delayed until Jacksonville when the team is 4-8.
funny thing is you cant deny any of it. so you go to some schtick. And McDaniels didnt even start tebow until the season was over ... so there is that.
Please,,,,,,,enough already,,,,,,,Tim Tebow is a great kid and could be a Good , (pick one) RB. HB. TE. An NFL QB he is not !!!!!!!
McDaniels never started Tebow. He was fired two weeks before Tebow's first start. But more to your point; all that dude has is a schtick.
Tebow is the best option McElroy the 2nd best And just like when Sanchez kissed Eva the first time and tasted Tony Parker's cock, Sanchez should taste the bench. Money or no, he is supposed to give his all.
Mullets are hard to catch with a hook but I'm good at it. PART 1 On January 11, 2009, the Denver Broncos named McDaniels their head coach, replacing Mike Shanahan. On April 2, 2009, the Bears traded Orton (along with their first and third-round draft picks in 2009 and their first-round pick in '10) to the Denver Broncos for Pro Bowl quarterback Jay Cutler and the Broncos' fifth round pick in '09. On June 13, Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels declared Orton the starting quarterback for the season. Orton led the Broncos to a 12-7 victory in the 2009 season opener against the Cincinnati Bengals. The game was won on a deflected pass that landed in the arms of Brandon Stokley who took it 87yards for a touchdown. Over the next five weeks, Orton led the Broncos to a surprising 6-0 record to begin the season. His most impressive effort in that streak came against the New England Patriots, when he completed 35-48 passes for 330 yards and orchestrated a 98-yard drive to tie the game and send it into overtime. He threw his first interception of the season to Randy Moss at the end of the first half. It was his first in 173 pass attempts which dated back to 2008 when he was with the Chicago Bears. He led another drive for the game-winning field goal in overtime. On October 13, 2009, Kyle Orton was named the AFC Offensive Player of the Week, for that effort. On Nov. 15, Orton suffered an ankle injury on the road against the Washington Redskins. He came out of the game at halftime with a career high passer rating of 134.7. The injury kept him from starting the next game against the Chargers. He did return partway through that game, replacing Chris Simms. For the 2009 season (playing in 16 games with 15 starts), Orton threw 21 touchdown passes and 12 interceptions with an 86.8 QB rating. April 22, 2010, the Broncos drafted Tim. Orton was named the Broncos starting quarterback for 2010. He signed a one-year contract extension (through the 2011 season), on August 19, 2010. On September 26, 2010, Orton threw for 476 yards against the Indianapolis Colts, a career-high. On October 17, Tebow scored his first NFL touchdown, which was a five-yard running play against the New York Jets. On November 14, Tebow threw a three-yard touchdown pass to Spencer Larsen on his first career NFL pass attempt, as part of a 49–29 home victory over the Kansas City Chiefs. He also added a one-yard rushing touchdown in the game. His performance against the Chiefs earned him his first Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Week honor. On November 14, Orton threw a career-high four touchdown passes against the Kansas City Chiefs. McDaniels' second season in Denver ended with a 3–9 record. The Broncos lost to the Kansas City Chiefs on December 5, and on the next day, McDaniels was fired by the Broncos. Later in the season, with the Broncos eliminated from playoff contention, Orton played poorly against the Arizona Cardinals on December 12, 2010. Tim Tebow was named the starter the following week by interim coach Eric Studesville and played the last three games of the season. Orton finished the season with 3,653 yards, 20 touchdowns, and nine interceptions Tebow started his first NFL game on December 19, which was a 39–23 road loss to the Oakland Raiders. Tebow completed 8 of 16 passes for 138 yards, including a 33-yard touchdown pass. He also rushed for 78 yards, 40 of which came on a touchdown run in the first quarter of the game. It was the longest touchdown run for a quarterback in Broncos history and the longest touchdown run in NFL history for a quarterback in his first start. Tebow became just the third quarterback in NFL history to throw for a touchdown of 30 or more yards and run for a touchdown of 40 or more yards in the same game. He finished the game with a 100.5 passer rating, the highest ever in team history for a professional debut. Tebow's first career victory came in his second start on December 26. The Broncos defeated the Houston Texans, 24–23, in Denver. Tebow helped rally the Broncos from a 17–0 deficit at halftime, as he finished the game with 308 passing yards and one touchdown pass. He also added a fourth quarter rushing touchdown, which capped the comeback. Tebow received his second Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Week honor following his performance. Tebow finished his rookie season playing sparingly in six games as a back-up (primarily on plays involving the wild horse formation, which is Denver's variation of the wildcat formation) before starting the last three games of the Broncos' season. He threw for a total of 654 yards, five touchdowns and three interceptions. He also rushed for 227 yards and six touchdowns. Tebow became the first quarterback in NFL history to rush for a touchdown in each of his first three career starts. Continued in the following post.
PART 2 Tebow began the 2011 season as the Denver Broncos' backup quarterback, with Kyle Orton acting as the starter. After a 1–4 start and some poor performances, Orton was replaced by Tebow at halftime during a home game against the San Diego Chargers in the fifth week of the season. Tebow nearly led the Broncos back from a 16-point deficit, as he passed and ran for a touchdown in the fourth quarter. The Chargers ultimately won the game, 29–24. Shortly afterward, Broncos' head coach John Fox announced Tebow would start in the following game on the road against the Miami Dolphins. Tebow and the Broncos struggled in the first three-and-a-half quarters against the Dolphins, but rallied from a 15–0 deficit in the last three minutes to win the game, 18–15, in overtime. Denver became the first team in NFL history to win a game after being down by at least 15 points with three minutes to play in a game. On November 6, Tebow rushed for 117 yards, along with passing for 124 yards and two touchdowns, as part of a 38–24 road victory over the Oakland Raiders. It was the first game in his NFL career that Tebow rushed for at least 100 yards. Broncos' running back Willis McGahee ran for 163 yards and two touchdowns, making Tebow and McGahee only the fifth quarterback and running back tandem in NFL history to run for at least 100 yards in the same game. The Broncos followed up a road win over division-rival Oakland with another road win over a division rival, the Kansas City Chiefs. Tebow completed two passes on eight attempts for 69 yards and a touchdown. His second completion, a 56-yard touchdown pass in the fourth quarter to wide receiver Eric Decker, sealed the game for Denver. Tebow became the fifth quarterback since 1980 to win a game after being the sole quarterback on the winning team to complete two or fewer passes. Four days later, Tebow was 9-for-20 with 104 yards in a Thursday Night Football home game against the New York Jets. He led a 95-yard, game-winning touchdown drive with less than six minutes to play, and the Broncos trailing, 13–10. On third-and-four, Tebow ran for a 20-yard touchdown with less than one minute remaining. The Broncos won the game, 17–13. Tebow guided the Broncos to another comeback victory the next week—a 16–13 overtime road win over the San Diego Chargers. He ran the ball 22 times for 67 yards. His 22rushing attempts were the most by an NFL quarterback since 1950. In the 10th start of his NFL career, Tebow led the Broncos to their third consecutive come-from-behind win of the season after trailing going into the fourth quarter, as Denver beat the Minnesota Vikings on the road, 35–32. The following Sunday, Tebow once again guided a comeback victory, this time at home over the Chicago Bears. Denver won 13–10 in overtime after facing a 10–0 deficit with just over two minutes to play in regulation. Tebow's sixth come-from-behind fourth quarter or overtime victory in his 11 career starts was the most in NFL history for any quarterback in that time span. Tebow and the Broncos' winning streak was broken by the New England Patriots in week 15. Tebow rushed for 2 touchdowns and accounted for almost 300 total yards against the Patriots, but Denver lost 41–23. In the Broncos' 40–14 loss to the Buffalo Bills the following week, Tebow had 1 passing and 1 rushing touchdown, but he also threw three interceptions, two of which were returned for touchdowns. He struggled for a second straight game the following week in a 7–3 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs, completing only 6 of 22passes and finishing with a career low quarterback rating of 20.6 But with a week 17 loss by the Oakland Raiders, the Broncos won the AFC West title in a tiebreaker. January 8, 2012, the Patriots hired McDaniels to act as an offensive assistant coach during their 2011–12 playoff run. After the three consecutive losses, Broncos vice president and former quarterback John Elway said Tebow was playing tentatively and needed to "pull the trigger." On January 8, Denver hosted the Pittsburgh Steelers during the first round of the NFL playoffs. Tebow threw for a career high 316 yards and two touchdowns, including an 80 yard TD to Demaryius Thomas on the first play of overtime, as the Broncos won 29–23. Tebow completed 10 of 21 passes in the contest, setting the franchise record for quarterback rating in a playoff game (125.6) and an NFL record for yards per completion (31.6) in a playoff game. The Broncos were handed a 45–10 defeat by the New England Patriots the following week, knocking them out of the playoffs. Clearly McDaniels has value as a coach, arguably more than Elway's. Jets fans know the rest of the story, first hand. From a football fans' perspective, what's not to like about Tim, unless ofc you are his opponent.
i know right. so cool tebow won the super bowl last year and went undefeated because you know going 1-1 in the playoffs doesnt get you that lombardi trophy! Winning!!! I want a real answer from the tebow lovers. If heart, desire and attitude helped tim win those games...why then did he lose the others? Could it be they happened to be the BETTER TEAM in those wins and the lesser team in those losses? Where was his heart and desire in the home KC game? At the Bills? The Patriots twice? This is why you guys are looked upon as idiots and zealots. Heart and desire don't win games in the NFL, by themselves, being FUCKING better than the team your playing on the day you play it does.
I mean Sanchez obviously won the Lombardi and was awesome last year right? That's why he got a huge contract. :eye roll: >< Don't see the other 31 teams in the league getting rid of their QB's because they didn't win the super bowl. Losses are because of poor planning or poor execution. The same as for every other team in the league. Yes, I'll take fries with that, thanks.
Teams "hand an answer" for the crap that McCoy insisted on calling for 3+ quarters each game. What then happened is that Denver was usually behind, the "game plan" went out the window and Denver started operating exclusively from the gun in mostly spread formations. You are aware of the fact that offensive alignment CAN dictate defensive coverages, right ? Teams are comfortable with stacking 8 men in the box and using 2 corners and a safety on 2 WRs and a TE in tight man coverage. When you throw 4 and 5 receivers out there, defense plans change as most teams don't have 3, 4 and 5 CBs who can cover in tight man. Take a look back at what the Jets faced on that 95 yard drive by Tebow. What decisions they had to make. Do you go with a nickel/dime package to bring smaller speedier guys in to cover the receivers ? Do you go with a "heavy" package with more LBs to try and stop Tebow from running ? Do you get caught and stuck in one package due to Tebow running a hurry up offense where you can't sub in ? BTW, most of the yardage against the Bears in the 4th Q and overtime came against their "regular" defense, not a prevent D. They were running their standard variation of the Tampa 2, which is their base defense.
If you look at that last Jets drive, it's almost all empty backfield, with receivers spread out from sideline to sideline. That's what worked -- that's what worked in all those comebacks. The regular Denver offense was too Orton-centric because there had never been an off-season install/OTA/training camp built around the empty backfield, spread out formations. But they worked. Sure, some games didn't require a comeback -- the Broncos methodically dismantled the Raiders, and ran it all game long over the Chiefs the first time. And sure, they won a shootout against the Vikings and Steelers. So that's 4 wins. In the other half (4) of the wins when Tebow was starting, the offense was flat with play-calling, everything (Tebow included) until they opened it up with a spread out formation and some empty backfield shotgun. That's how Tebow could be most effective -- heavy doses of empty backfield, with the extra men on the line blocking or going out for passes.
