Why do you guys only have Shonn Greene?

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  1. gammatec

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    I'm not a Jets fan, but I support Mark because of his USC connection.

    One thing I noticed, among other train wrecks during that game, was that the Jets are trying to move the chains with little ol Shonn Greene, all by himself.

    No way that's happening. No run game, no wide receivers, no creativity on offense means Mark and Tebow never get into any sort of a continuity.

    I also have to say Harbaugh completely schooled Sparano on offense. Or whoever their offensive coordinator was.

    On their first touchdown drive, the play calling and contrast between the Niners and Jets was insane. One was complex and unpredictable, the other was one dimensional, lackluster and predictable every single time.

    Anyway, good luck to you guys. If you can regroup and use Tebow as a better compliment (he is talented and a tank you know), that will help Sanchez and maybe the Jets that played the Bills this season will show up for the rest of the season.

    By the way, draft a running back.
     
  2. Br4d

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    The reason we only have Shonn Greene is that the Jets have not drafted a good mainstay back since Terry Bradway became the GM in 2001. They just don't find talent to carry the ball for them in the draft.

    The current FO/talent team inherited Curtis Martin and traded for Thomas Jones after a year in 2006 when they couldn't find anybody to carry the load.

    This is 2012. Good offenses have 2 or 3 good receivers AND a good receiving TE AND a guy who can run the ball well AND often he also is a good receiver out of the backfield.

    The Jets have 1.5 solid receivers at this point. That's it. And if Holmes is hurt they have .5 solid receivers and that's it. The lack of offensive talent on the team is embarrassing at this point.
     
  3. Mason

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    Define "solid". Before last week's game, he hadn't recorded a 100 yard game in 27 games. As a #1 receiver, that is not solid. He's been far from solid. He'd be borderline solid at the #2 position given his production.

    No matter how many times you try to tell yourself that this guy is good, it wont change the fact that he has been a complete bust here. $50 million to a complete bum. When he's your #1 receiver, you know things are bad.

    As for running back, well, we need a running back so bad it's not even funny. We need a running back as bad as we need a #1 receiver. It would be great to have a running back that could actually break some big runs.

    Jets - where you "earn" feature positions by completely sucking.
     
  4. stinkyB

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    Why Powell didn't get more carries was baffling to me.

    Yes, I agree about the offensive playcalling as well. Some of us were not exactly thrilled about Sparano being brought aboard, and were just happy to see Schottenheimer go. well..........
     
  5. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Because our GM is an accountant pretending to be a GM -- and sucks at building a team. The owner forces players like Tim Tebow down our throats to grab back page headlines instead of finding way to properly build a team.
     
  6. JetsVilma28

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    Greene once showed us a style of punishing running prowess in the post season. He has many limitations that prevent him from being a feature running back including, inability to block (he has gotten better), inability to catch (he has also gotten better), lack of vision, loss of his second gear (he once had it, it is now lost), lack of intelligent offensive line and finally nagging injuries. Sadly, Greenes best days as a running back in the NFL have passed him. He is a decent #2 option on any team that can hurt opposing defenses in the 2nd half of the game and 2nd half of the season.

    Our offense collectively is worth less than a pile of shit.
     
  7. 85inthehall

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    We have Bilal Powell who in limited action has shown to be quicker, more elusive, and more explosive than Greene. Ryan is loyal to a fault and they it is his biggest issue right now.

    He needs to give some of the young guys they drafted a chance to play.
     
  8. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    And me...he was clearly the better RB the week before and pretty much since week one..this is one of those instances where I don't know who is really running this team..Ryan or Tannenbaum..for much the same reason that Sanchez is still the starter and will be again next week. Even yesterday when we were getting killed they left Sanchez in..made no sense at all and even the announcers were baffled by it. I might be mistaken but I really don't think Ryan is that stupid.
     
  9. deerow84

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    I don't get it either. It's bad enough that we decide to be a run offense despite the league clearly being a passing league now and, you know, I can live with that. Sometimes being off of the norm can be beneficial, not often but it can be. The only thing about that is if you are going to be run game oriented you should have a legit franchise RB. Like a Foster or Peterson or Gore or Rice, etc. We don't have that, we have a average to below average RB. So how does that make sense?

    I honestly don't know where we outrank any teams in offense positions. By QB we have to be middle of the pack at best, receivers we have to be in the bottom third if not bottom 5, rushers we have to be in the bottom third, offensive line hasn't been terrible this year so we might be a bit over average on that one.
     
  10. Br4d

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    I don't think Rex trusts the young talent he's been given. Based on his body language and a few choice comments he has made over the last year I don't think he trusts the front office to give him the players he needs to compete at the highest levels.

    I think he may well be coming to the conclusion that he's been handed a bad hand and with his type of personality that usually does not end well.

    His message to the locker room right now needs to be: "Fuck it, they're all writing us off. Let's go make fools out of them!" It's doubling down and it might not work but it's the only chance the Jets have and it's one of the few ways he can re-establish some of the momentum he imparted in 2009 and 2010.

    If he can't do that he's going to be the guy on the beach building sand castles as the tide comes in and it's going to knock all of them down on him before he decides to leave the beach.
     
  11. ajax

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    It's painfully obvious why Jets only have Greene. They suck @ drafting RB even though they've spent multiple picks there. How far back do you have to dig to find a RB pick better than Greene? McNeil/Hector?
     
  12. Don

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    Washington
     
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    Leon was a good pick. Guess his Jets stint was too short for me to recall him quickly.
     
  14. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Yeah, he wanted a raise and that is the number 1 way to get run out of town under Tannenbaum.
     
  15. Br4d

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    Leon Washington was a third down back. The Jets haven't drafted a real mainstay running back since Freeman McNeil.
     
  16. NFL

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    Jets need to draft a RB 1st round. They try to get lucky in the later rounds drafting slow backs. Almost all the back that are doing good now are all speedy backs. Greene has no speed and can't cut for his life.
     
  17. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    And so is Greene and that's the problem. In fairness they did try to move up to take McFadden..when Davis turned them down they moved up to take Gholsten instead...almost too laughable to contemplate.
     
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  18. Br4d

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    What the Jets need to do is get a professional management team in here that understands football and is accountable for their results. We've got amateurs and hackers all over the place in the organization right now and it's killing the product on the field.
     
  19. ajax

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    There's gonna be so many holes that I'm expecting BPA (best player available) to fill a major need. Safeties & LB will be gone. Greene/Keller might be gone so TE/RB will also be needs. If Vlad isn't ready to step up then Jets will need to add some depth to the OL also. How do even know the RT will be able to hold it down this season. Perhaps that position will also need to be upgraded?

    Hopefully, Jets won't trade up & just pick the maximum number of players. Maybe some good talent can be acquired in later rounds this time.
     
  20. Br4d

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    Greene is not a third down back. He doesn't catch the ball well out of the backfield. He doesn't really have a role in a good NFL offense at this point. He's a rotational back in an offense that has decided to run a lot when he has somebody else in front of him to be the mainstay.

    He really doesn't have much value.
     

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