Looking closely at Sanchez

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  1. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    clicking the link and reading the article seems like a lot of work.

    I'll just stick with Sanchez sucks.
     
  2. illipinoG

    illipinoG New Member

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    I still have faith in Sanchez, but I'm hoping this offense starts producing more. The blame isn't solely his, I've been watching our WR's drop some nice passes and our run game as of right now is nonexistent. Mark does love to throw high though, and it's definitely showing up a lot more, I'm hoping that they find a way to fix that.
     
  3. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez could morph into Dan Marino and this team would struggle. He had over 300 yrds. against the Dolphins...we need a ground game if Sparano's approach is gonna work.

    Sanchez ain't the issue.
     
  4. Dom

    Dom Well-Known Member

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    i like how the guy in the article leaves out the play where nacho threw a horrible INT in the redzone.

    i think this guy kinda misses the point. the way i look at it, sparano just needs mark sanchez to be a game manager because he isn't good. the journalist is right technically, mark is doing well at what he is suppose to do. the thing that pisses me off is that because he can't play well we have to make some bullshit lame plan around him.

    like ill always support sanchez, but idk
     
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  5. Will-I-Am-Not

    Will-I-Am-Not Well-Known Member

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    The problem with Sanchez is that, in today's NFL, Super Bowl winning QBs take fewer sacks, throw fewer picks and still complete over 60 percent of their passes. Hopefully, improved accuracy will be the last piece of the puzzle for him.

     
  6. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Great article! I will always remember watching espn and listening to Bill Cowher talk about Sanchez last year. He said that people are so caught up seeing some of these young quarterbacks jump into the league and immediately are great. Those are very rare occasions. Quarterbacks are supposed to take time to mold into a great quarterback. Guys like Eli Manning, Drew Brees, etc. For some, it just takes time to become that great quarterback.

    This is his fourth year. Sanchez needs to step up this year. Yes it is frustrating, but think about all the people who doubted Eli and even Brees. Hell, they wanted them out of town, but look at them now. I'm not saying Sanchez will definitely become something great, but there is definitely that possibility. Some people on here are ripping him like he's done God awful! The truth is, he had two very strong games, one at Buffalo and the other in Pittsburgh. Dropped passes don't exactly help a QBs numbers. Even in Miami he had a shitty outing, but still threw for over 300 yards and a game changing TD drive. I am very hesitant to say he will be great, but I sure as hell am not writing him off quite yet, and neither should you.
     
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  7. talisaynon

    talisaynon Well-Known Member

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    confirms my suspicions that Sanch is getting rid of the ball faster. =)
     
  8. HardHitta

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    I thought Sancho would take that next step and finally complete 60%, guess that's not gonna happen. A little skewed considering receivers are dropping passes at a high rate and running shit routes.. Fuck it, he still misses wide open targets anyway.
     
  9. johnny

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    Again, you can think that play was horrible, but as it's been pointed out by many (whether you choose to agree or not) the result of the endzone INT was more Cumberland's fault than Sanchez. He threw that ball to the spot that it was supposed to go to and if Cumberland had done his job the pass wouldn't have been intercepted.

    The only thing positive in my mind about the Revis situation is that it will hopefully force the Jets out of a G&P philosophy. The defense will likely not be able to shut down offenses as they thought earlier in the year so the team will have to adjust and the offense will be able to produce better (ie. more consistent results) for the Jets to win.

    The theory behind a game manager is great if you have an outstanding defense and a strong running attack. Even if you do have both of those emelents limiting your QB (and your offensive output) does lessen the amount of "cushion" that you have for the team to win. Unfortunately, the Jets have neither a strong running attack or an excellent defense at the moment. The Jets will have no choice, but to allow Sanchez to throw the ball. If he can step up and play a little better then the Jets can be successful - ie. not have a top offense but at least be better than mediocre.
     
  10. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    I guess I should emphasize that the WRs as a group are underachieving. Not just not playing well, but actively playing beneath the level of talent that they have. Sanchez's numbers don't happen in a vacuum and the drops plaguing his WRs certainly aren't helping.
     
  11. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    I agree that QBs take time to develop, but be careful with that logic. For every example of QBs that played poorly at first and then got their shit together you can find dozens of examples of guys that started awful and just stayed awful.
     
  12. 85inthehall

    85inthehall Well-Known Member

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    Problem with that was a shitty route (or play design) from the TE. The TE should have run a shall drag out to the sideline to bring his defender out of the endzone and away from the play. Instead he ran to the end zone which allowed for his man to cover him and also front hill.

    Now I haven't seen an overhead replay of that to see if Sanchez threw a timing pass and the TE basically ran his man into the path or if Sanchez saw the TE and tried to squeeze it in to a tight spot.
     
  13. JetsFanDoc

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    Its incredibly hard to put together a high completion percentage when your running game hasn't done and won't do anything and the receivers are running wrong routes and not reading the hot routes at the same level as Mark Sanchez. Jets receivers need to find a friggin way to shake defenders free and have some space and then when the ball is thrown to you the catching of the ball is very easy.....or not........

    Mark Sanchez is a very good quarterback. the reaction to him is embarassing. Last game he was very bad in the first 3 quarters, but when he was in the 4th trying to win the game, and overtime , he got it done! He won the game. The attention should be on the fact that shonn greene is not a #1 running back, or even a #2
     
  14. AarontheJet

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    It was a timing route.
     
  15. Acad23

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    Really? One could just as easily say that Nick Folke "won the game". Or that Landry's pick 6 "won the game".
     
  16. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Truth. ouchy usually comes in with some blabbing nonsense without any specifics, nothing to see there.
     
  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yeah, this post is pure horse shit. Sparano was hired to bring in a power running offense with a passing game heavily based on play action. It's the type of offense that suits Sanchez to a tee in terms of skillset.

    In game one, the Bills sold out for a rushing attack that wasn't there and got dismantled by Sanchez through the air.

    In game two, the Steelers started out respecting the run and early on were getting picked apart. Then they realized the truth about the Jets offense: there was no real power running game. The O-line was struggling to open holes even against a four man front so they backed their safeties off and sold out pass.

    The Phins followed that blueprint with some success as well, although late in the game when the Jets began chipping away with ground yards, they got exposed and lost because of it.

    It's not that Sanchez is in the wrong system, it's that he's playing on an offense that's made up mainly of players suited for a different one, and also players that lack experience.

    Sanchez isn't going to be an elite QB that can play in a multitude of systems, we know this by now, but this one is right for him... although your pathetic Schotty comment and your overt hatred of Sparano were pretty funny, even if they don't amount to anything intelligent.
     
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  18. lamont_jordan_rules

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    ... incredible read ... i love getting into the "nuts and bolts" like this ...


    there was one part that i think could have been clarified a bit ...


    [ It’s 20 personnel (2 x RB, 0 x TE) and interestingly the Jets are lined up in what’s normally known as Shotgun Bronco Heavy (a formation that Tim Tebow seems to have brought with him from Denver). Tebow himself is set up as an auxillary TE to Sanchez’s right ]

    ... i'd have said in the last sentence "Tebow, positioned as the 2nd RB in the formation at the snap" is actually set to be used as an auxillary TE ... or words to that effect ...

    ... that's just me nitpicking though ... i loved this, thanks! ...




    l_j_r
     
  19. b.reyes16

    b.reyes16 Well-Known Member

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    I.........agree........with this..........post......
     
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